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Display cadence & current speed when recording on mobile app

derrick m
suggested this on July 13, 2012, 9:28 PM

Can I display cadence from my biometric cadence and speed sensor on the main display? I have a wahoo fitness bike pack. I found how to add the sensor, and can see it in the sensor link in the upper right corner. But I would like to display cadence on the main page. I don't really care about elapsed time. Thanks, Derrick

 

Strava update:

Changes to the mobile app recording experience are coming late-Spring 2015. Displaying cadence and current speed on the Strava app while recording are planned features. Stay tuned, and thanks for your feedback! 

 

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Elle Anderson
Community Support

Changes to the mobile app recording experience are coming late-Spring 2015. Displaying cadence and current speed on the Strava app while recording are planned features. Stay tuned, and thanks for your feedback! 

February 16, 2015, 1:47 AM
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Jairo Ochoa

Since I use RFLKT+ bike computer I save my iPhone battery and I do not give a damn about this feature at Strava app.

Maybe this is what Strava wanted, to force people to buy RFLKT+ devices …

I also use Wahoo app and then I upload to Strava.

 

February 9, 2015, 1:16 PM
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Paul Allen

Looks like I will have to use the Wahoo Fitness app and upload the rides to Strava. I was hoping to avoid using another app, but with out the cadence being displayed on the main screen it can't be helped. 

 

February 9, 2015, 12:16 PM
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Manuel B.

I am using a Panobike cadence/speed sensor and wonder if there is a way to display it on Strava's recording screen. 

February 5, 2015, 7:29 PM
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Gianni Ioime

please add the cadence and power to the record scene!!!!!

December 27, 2014, 11:07 AM
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Francesco G.

Please add the F******** Cadence & the realtime Speed to the Record Screen! Learn&Watch from Runkeeper and Runtastic. Thanks.

December 24, 2014, 9:52 AM
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Sid Leake

I believe Strava means strive in English. Strava should strive to be a viable cycling computer. I have gone from Garmin 310XT to Garmin 810 and finally the Galaxy S5 with ipbike (which is awesome, BTW) I'm tired of trying to manage multiple apps and imports/exports blah, blah, blah. With IPbike it tracks everything and then uploads to Traninpeaks, Sportstracks, Cycling Analytics and Strava automatically. C'mon Strava, I'm a premium member.

 

 

October 23, 2014, 5:23 PM
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Kenneth P.

I'd bet if we boycotted the Strava app they would finally do it. It's such an easy addition for them to d,  being that there are other apps out there with less capabilities but have this much needed feature. Display the speed display the cadence let go, this is a cycling app right?

October 9, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Daniel Meyer

Use, wahoo fitness, you get all of these features, cadence, speed, etc... and then you just export your ride to strava if you like

October 3, 2014, 4:51 PM
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Norbin Cruz

Cyclemeter is great but only works for Apple devices. For those on Android OS, like myself, Endomondo works great with my Bluetooth devices. I would personally like for the screen menu to be easier to read (larger fonts), but its audio feedback is fantastic. Instead of having to look at the screen to know HR, cadande, etc. you can have the application to tell it via the headphone which for me works great. I'm also using Wahoo Apps which displays more like a true cycling computer and allows uploading the data directly to services like Strava and Garmin.  

Lastly, Don't miss out from the social interaction. Tapiriik (www.tapiriik.com) is a service that allows data synchronization between Garmin Connect, RunKeeper, Strava, TrainingPeaks, Sporttrack, Endomondo, RidewithGPS and dropbox. You can use any of these applications and have your data synchronize to the rest using this service.

October 1, 2014, 11:50 AM
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Ian Duff

Lots of fluff and bother recently on this thread about the Strava mobile app. I've come to the conclusion that it's a social app for cyclists (or runners), nothing more. It's horrendous as a bike computer, so I've written it off as such. It's only moderately OK as a cycling social app, so I typically use the web site on my iPhone or iPad, along with a portable microscope to be able to read it.


Time for Strava to shit or get off the pot, and stop wasting dev resources pointlessly.

 

If Strava recognizes their mobile app is a social app, get rid of the ride metrics screen entirely, and improve the social aspects. For example, I'd really like to be able to see who else is riding while I'm riding, and more importantly, where they're riding.

 

If Strava thinks they need to be all things to all people and they really do need a ride metrics app, ferchrissakes go buy Abvio or just relabel Cyclemeter.

October 1, 2014, 9:23 AM
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Cosmin Vacaroiu

Maybe we should create a movable transparent widget that floats over strava, and doesn't block 'buttons' on strava screen, that will display the speed, cadence, and whatever we want.

Also strava doesn't take into account speed from the speedometer, but from GPS, which is bad for indoor training.

October 1, 2014, 3:06 AM
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Salty Pete Lin

@Sky PN - I could be wrong, but Strava's backend already supports GPX and TCX, which would imply their backend and mobile apps are already capable of recording all of that data. It would be great if Strava gave us the facts and explained exactly how much/little work it would be, but clearly they feel providing good feedback to customers on this issue isn't important. The issue I'm pointing out isn't the lack of features, it's the poor communication and poor support. I totally understand you're happy with it and yes the official description doesn't claim to be a complete bike app. Yes, it's a social app. But even there Strava hasn't done a good job. Their elevation correction kind of blows for those that use Garmin. There should be a "pro filter" feature, which Peloton magazine has mentioned in the past. There should be GPS correction to their segment matching. There's known techniques that have proven to work well, but Strava still hasn't done anything about it.

I don't use ANT+ in my mobile apps, so I won't BS or claim to care about those API. I do use Bluetooth LE with iOS CoreBluetooth. Getting that data is standardized and trivial. Clearly Strava is already recording it, since you can export GPX/TCX files with that data, it's just the display. Even if someone doesn't understand all the details of ANT+, Wahoo Fitness already provides a set of API that abstracts that away for the developer. Basically, you don't have to spend months learning all the details of ANT+ protocol. You can just download Wahoo fitness API and use it. In fact, I'm using it now. You can find the API here http://api.wahoofitness.com/index.html . Having worked as a tech support rep back in college, I totally understand how challenging it is. I do hope Strava improves their customer service and how they communicate with the customers.

September 30, 2014, 5:16 PM
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Adam Robertson

@Skye PN Of course supporting new BT devices when you don't already isn't trivial... but they already have that functionality.  You can see your cadence if you go into settings and view external devices, and it both records and happily displays it from the webapp and phone apps.  They're just refusing to put it on the record screen where it's actually useful information.  

I'm glad you're happy without this functionality.  We're not.  Don't tell us we should be, please.

September 30, 2014, 4:59 PM
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Skye PN

I'm a paying customer too and I'm perfectly happy with the service.  So I'm voicing my satisfaction.  By your logic, apparently you don't get to comment anymore since you cancelled your premium.

It's not "trivial" to add an entirely new data set to the mobile app, back end, and API not to mention supporting all the possible cadence sensors, and implying otherwise demonstrates ignorance of the subject on your part.  One such example of the development difficulties, DC Rainmaker wrote this in 2012:

However, as a whole, the sensor marketplace for Bluetooth Smart devices remains extremely fragmented and highly dependent on a handful of apps. Take for example Blue SC. Today there are four apps that support it (two of which Wahoo created). There’s no doubt in the medium term, many of the apps that support devices via the Wahoo Fitness API (meaning, they already support the Wahoo ANT+ dongle) – will broaden support for the BTLE sensor.

But that takes time. Development time. It also takes standards, ones that are just barely being supported for the heart rate device profile (protocol), and are still not fully finalized for the speed/cadence sensor. No other device profiles exist (i.e. nothing for power meters, running footpod in beta, etc….), and the timeline to get the device profiles out of the SIG is very very very long and slow.

Not to mention that ANT+ has all kinds of proprietary extensions that Garmin won't share.  Just because the app can connect to the sensor doesn't mean the work is done, not by a long shot.

Now here is the text verbatim from http://www.strava.com/about

Strava lets you track your rides and runs via your iPhone, Android or dedicated GPS device and helps you analyze and quantify your performance. Strava provides motivation and camaraderie, and helps us prove that we’re out there doing what we love to do.

I would much rather have the Strava development team work on the core of their excellent service ("social fitness") rather than waste time recreating the wheel when there are plenty dedicated bike computer apps that do exactly what you're demanding.  Anyway that's my $0.02 I'm done.  They said they are working on it and that's good enough for me.  

September 30, 2014, 3:42 PM
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Salty Pete Lin

@Skye PN - I spoke with my wallet and cancelled my premium subscription. Since I'm a programmer and have experience with app development, I'll say this. Adding speed/cadence to the recording screen is trivial given there's plenty of room on that screen. Strava iOS app already connects to the sensor, so it's really just reading the data and displaying it. It is literally less than 4 hours of work to display that data. Recording it and making it easy to export takes a bit more time, but it's not that hard. Maybe another 10 hours to make sure it is backwards compatible. The thing is, Strava should have been up front when the ticket was created and handled the support better. What I would have done is told customers "we don't plan to add this feature, please use another app". When paying customers ask for a feature that is trivial to add, at minimum Strava needs to provide solid customer support with clear explanations. I've stopped using Strava during rides and only upload from cyclemeter. Strava has every right to decide how to spend their time and resources. Paying customers have a right to voice their frustrations, isn't that how things are suppose to work?

September 30, 2014, 8:05 AM
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Adam Robertson

@Skye PN The question is not "why", but "why not".  When your user base tells you that they really want something and it's trivial for you to do, you don't say no to them because of the lowest common denominator or largest use case.  I've started using Cyclemeter (and I'm incredibly happy with it, btw), but I lose features like live ride sharing that would otherwise be available with Strava.  It's additionally annoying because they clearly have the ability to display metrics on the record screen since they already display HR when available.  

So why are we mad?  Because they've acknowledged that we want it, that they have the ability to implement it, and that they won't implement it.  It's a particularly bad combination.

September 30, 2014, 7:38 AM
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Skye PN

I just wanted to add a different perspective.  I'm really surprised how many people are freaking out because the Strava recording page isn't a full bike computer.  Strava is a community of cyclists, a segment explorer, and a training tool, where does it claim to be a bike computer too?  I don't get it - it's clear the Premium features are primarily about post-ride analysis, and nobody forced you to pay to try out the bike computer feature.

What's really baffling is that there are other options for free or cheap apps that are specifically bike computers - Wahoo Fitness, Cyclemeter - that upload directly to Strava when you finish your ride.

Honestly, get a grip people!!!!  Strava does an amazing job, at at least they have an API so 3rd party apps can integrate unlike SOME companies!

September 29, 2014, 2:28 PM
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Ken Vahle

I am amazed at the slow response on this subject.  from my experience with programming this is not rocket science.  Make the display customizable and let the user decide if they want to contend with quirks of instant GPS speed .

 

I signed up monthly with my premium subscription, I may well let it lapse.  Why would i want to give money to  a company who ignores their customers for 2 years or more.  

Regarding me and my money, you have 30 days to comply.  I am not going to use the superior digifit ICardio interface and swap files forever.

I like the communal aspect and benchmarking myself against other riders but in the end I guess i can just suggest it to mapmyride or ICardio and in 2 years they might just absorb your best features and I can have my cake and eat it as well:)

 

30 Days till lapsed subscription  tic tock.

September 29, 2014, 7:09 AM
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Cosmin Vacaroiu

Please consider that there are 2 types of speed/cadence sensors: 

 

1. A single bluetooth device with both speed and cadence (most sensors: Wahoo, etc)

2. Separate bluetooth devices one for speed and one for cadence (Polar)

 

As for now on Android there is no application to read & display the speed and cadence from separate devices.

September 16, 2014, 1:57 AM
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Elle Anderson
Community Support

Changes to the mobile app recording experience to incorporate the feedback here are definitely on our list of things to do in early 2015! Please stay tuned and we appreciate your patience. 

September 15, 2014, 7:52 PM
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Adam Robertson

And just like that.... I adopted Cyclemeter for my recording tool.  Tsk tsk, Strava, I would think you hold your users' opinions in higher esteem....

September 15, 2014, 3:53 PM
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Francisc Katai

 If is a financial isue to introduce the current speed and cadence on the display, than do it available only for the premium version. I am sure that you will have a nice income which will provide the necessary engineering costs.

With great hopes,

Francisc Katai

September 10, 2014, 11:14 AM
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Justin Wagner

Maybe the Strava team expects everybody to have a Wahoo RFLKT (http://www.wahoofitness.com/wahoo-rflkt-iphone-powered-bike-compute...)?

It's quite shocking to me that Strava (who I perceive as the current market leader for the competitive cycling community) has such a woe-fully under-designed in-ride experience.  At the very least Cadence and Speed should be shown, and the ability to configure what's shown would be nice, but isn't a show stopper.

September 10, 2014, 11:12 AM
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Bautista Ronco

No good, have a premium version if the main screen can not be modified, and offers little data. no cadence, not speed. sorry if this does not change the premium subscription renewal, and uninstall the program.

September 10, 2014, 5:08 AM
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Francisc Katai

Please add Cadence & Current Speed to the Record Screen!!!!

Thank you,

Francisc

September 5, 2014, 2:56 PM
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Cristian A.
I comming from MMR i'm really shocking about this basic feature. I move on because i use TACX and it only sync with strava. But MMR is by far better real time analytics than strava. Also the post ride info sucks it dont have averlap analitycs, MAP VS HR VS CADENCE VS SPEED. IN THE MAIN DISPLAY IT DONT SAY IF SESORS ARE ONLINE OR NOT, THE ONLY THIN IF YOU WANT IT YOU HAVE TO TOUCH UP IN THE APP. ALSO IN MMR YOU CAN PERSONALIZE ALL THE INFO YOU WANT. Ok if i dont use my tacx FORGET IT I NEVER SWITCH. NOW I HAVE TO SUCK IT UP. PLEASE STRAVA DEVELOP A SCREEN YOU CAN PERSONALIZE WITH THE STATS YOU WANT AND ALSO A SIMPLE MUSIC PLAYER BECAUSE TODAY I ALMOST CRASH TRYING TO CHANGE MY SONG WHILE RIDING IN MMR I JUST PRESS ONE BUTTOM.
August 23, 2014, 11:19 AM
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Robert Reich

HI All

I commented on this issue in October of 2013 and have been watching a steady stream of strava users struggle with this product decision. I think its obvious Strava believes their growth is based on social hooks and bragging instead of on-bike analytics. This is cool, but I think we need a better solution for on-bike analytics. We can alway post the data to Strava for post ride analytics and bragging.

I personally want an app that moves any and all data from the phone to a screen or other service. Cadence is only one thing thats missing IMO. 

Perhaps its time to do something instead of complaining. I'll commit some hours to helping build/design an iphone/android app. Ping me on twitter @menro if you would like to design or write some code.  

Quick vision: Device level API for capturing any and all data on the phone, BLTE communication module, UI for creating screens and Publish API for getting the data from the phone to a screen or other service. Alternative things I would like to see while riding: cadence, temp, altitude, sms, and ...

- robert

August 22, 2014, 8:53 AM
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Cosmin Vacaroiu

I think the information displayed while recording should be customizable, as other applications have.

I should pick what to display on the STATS screen.

Strava has some pretty complex functionalities and it integrates with lots of things, which is great, but it lacks the most trivial stuff in the world, that would take only 2 weeks to implement.

The reason for this I think is complete ignorance.

August 22, 2014, 2:35 AM
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Samuel C.

I just got a Wahoo blue speed/cadence monitor and had planned to use it with Strava, which I've also just joined. I am ASTOUNDED that such key metrics as actual speed and cadence and HR (I have  Wahoo HR monitor on order) are not displayed/displayable, and that the display is not customizable.  

That said, my solution is to use the Wahoo fitness app (free), which has a EXCELLENT display - all business, no crap, easy to read etc. And it is a SNAP to upload my ride to Strava. I see Strava as more of an offiline analysis (and self/others competition) tool than as a real-time feedback, and considering their inability/unwillingness to move on this OBVIOUS issue, apparently that's how they see it too. 

Be that as it may, it's the Wahoo app is easy to use, well-thought-out in use on the bike, and makes it simple to upload to Strava. About the only thing they could do to improve that feature would be a badge to see if you've already uploaded a ride to Strava. They DO have that badge, but you only see it when you open that ride up - would be better in the history display of all rides, to easily find any you might have missed. I am now getting in the habit of sending it it to Strava as soon as I stop recording in Wahoo.

August 17, 2014, 11:00 AM
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David Steele
I've read the thread, seen the intermittent responses from strava within it too. Seems to me that strava isn't positioning the mobile app as a fully featured bike computer deliberately. Oh, press release on August 4th - partnership with Garmin... I think we have our answer.

So the real question is when will the coopertition between strava and garmin heat up to the point that strava decides to take another bite of the pie?
August 15, 2014, 10:08 PM
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Juan R.

Please add Cadence & Speed & POWER to the Record Screen!

August 13, 2014, 3:32 AM
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Konstantinos K.

In all honesty, if we have to wait for two years to get an extra number (cadence) on the display then something is seriously wrong with Strava's development process. 
I'm a professional iOS developer and I really cannot understand why this simple (and essential) feature is taking so long to appear.

August 13, 2014, 12:08 AM
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das Tor

Please add Cadence & Speed to the Record Screen!

August 12, 2014, 8:34 AM
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Bastiaan G.

Current speed and cadence would be great. Keep us posted Elle.

August 5, 2014, 4:16 AM
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Andrew Tang

Goodbye Elle... see you again in 2 years time?? Duh!

July 17, 2014, 8:23 PM
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Jairo Ochoa

Hi Elle !

I think that at least if we pair a Wahoo Blue SC speed and cadence sensor, the speed and cadence should be shown on the screen.

Otherwise on Wahoo Site there must appear a warning which say not compatible with Strava.

Thanks 

July 17, 2014, 2:29 AM
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Elle Anderson
Community Support

I apologize for the lack of response in this forum! It's true that it has been quite some time since I've replied. 

The discussion around improvements to the Strava "recording experience" is at the forefront of our development currently, so now is a good time to think about this topic. Last week, we combed through this forum and other's that are related to glean the major feedback trends. Displaying current speed and cadence on the record screen ranked highly among other user feedback. This information is now in the hands of the development team. 

At this time, there are no definitive plans to add speed and cadence to the record screen. However, it is definitely something we're considering. Thanks for all your continued feedback - it's been really helpful.

Keep the comments coming! 

July 16, 2014, 5:01 PM
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Jairo Ochoa
Some news about this issue? It's been 2 years since it was posted.
July 16, 2014, 3:32 PM
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Simon Nielsen

Just do as mentioned several times in this thread. Use the Wahoo Fitness app. It's free and upload the Strava is an option. I don't see any use for the Strava app. It's utter shit compared to what's out there and honestly I don't see it ever catching up. Other than that RunGap is also pretty awesome if you (like me) use multiple sites for your rides / runs.

July 15, 2014, 11:36 PM
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Andrew Tang

Screw Strava. I've made the mistake of signing up for Premium. But I've not been using their app anymore to record my ride. I use Runtastic Road Bike on my iPhone... and it works great for me... I can customise the display to show whatever I want. FYI, I don't work for Runtastic. Later, download the gpx file and upload to Strava. When my Premium expires, bye bye Strava.

July 15, 2014, 5:36 PM
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marc king
+1 for live display! As I've become a more serious cycler, live speed and cadence display is more important to me than Strava's social element. And I'm not not spending $$$ on a bike computer when my iphone can do it.
July 15, 2014, 5:16 PM
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Salty Pete Lin

it's pretty clear that Strava doesn't care about this feature or thinks it's important. I've been playing with Wahoo's bluetooth API and adding the feature is straight forward.

July 14, 2014, 4:51 AM
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Andy Thomas

Why is this so hard?  Surely it's fundamental?

July 12, 2014, 9:53 AM
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Dmitry Oxenenko

Thanks for all the feedback! I've moved this post to the section for Feature Suggestions. Please continue to vote on this feature, and leave your comments. Your input on this is always much appreciated, and your opinions heard!

Hopefully this doesn't mean that the people making all the decisions have decided not include this for whatever business reason they have and this is their way of nicely putting that this won't be happening. Given that this has been raised 2 years ago and these are the responses we're getting, I can only assume they are not planning on having this feature. Shame, however the moment I get a cadence device, I'll be looking for another cycling app to make use of it. Shame, really like Strava!

July 9, 2014, 2:14 AM
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Chris Howlett

I too am shocked that there has been no input from Strava Support since early 2014 despite numerous comments and requests from users. Is there something we should be aware of legal, technical or otherwise?

Please can we have an update as to whether this feature is:

a)     On the roadmap with a realistic estimate of when the feature will arrive

b)     Not on the roadmap and a reason why

 

July 2, 2014, 10:13 AM
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Andrew T

Almost 2 years on and no comment from Strava since 14/9/2012, what an arrogant stance. Considering that this issue has been annoying people for 2 years you would think that an explanation to paying customers detailing why such a simple upgrade cannot be made would be a 'nice' thing to do.

July 2, 2014, 1:37 AM
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Michael Metsger
Please, add support for speed sensor(BT LE). I need option to calculate speed, distance and ride time based on the sesor data. GPS data is not accurate and not usefull for XCO.
June 27, 2014, 8:15 AM
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Thomas Geor… M.

Absolutely astounding this is not implemented yet. Of all the things Strava have held their thumbs up their downtubes on you'd think displaying SPEED, cadence, heart rate et cetera would be one of the easier implementations they'd make. Hey dude I'd even throw away the money for a Premium account for this.

 

I like a growing number of people are ditching conventional bike computers because they're redundant with the advent of bluetooth sensors. My phone mounts on my stem. I want to see the data Strava is taking in, like a lot of other tracking apps. It's a shame Strava dominates the cycling community and I can't give it up because the community adopted it as standard, because it stinks- because Strava isn't interested in developing a do-it-all swiss army knife of an amazing cycling app. They have their revenue stream on lock and apparently blowing a little dough on making it not garbage for the many users here asking for the same thing is too much.

June 26, 2014, 5:33 PM
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Thomas Geor… M.

Absolutely astounding this is not implemented yet. Of all the things Strava have held their thumbs up their downtubes on you'd think displaying SPEED, cadence, heart rate et cetera would be one of the easier implementations they'd make. Hell I'd even throw away the money for a Premium account for this.

 

I like a growing number of people are ditching conventional bike computers because they're redundant with the advent of bluetooth sensors. My phone mounts on my stem. I want to see the data Strava is taking in, like a lot of other tracking apps. It's a shame Strava dominates the cycling community and I can't give it up because the community adopted it as standard, because it stinks- because Strava isn't interested in developing a do-it-all swiss army knife of an amazing cycling app. They have their revenue stream on lock and apparently blowing a little dough on making it not suck for the many users here asking for the same thing is too much.

June 26, 2014, 5:32 PM
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Eric Binker

<with appropriate sensor data available>

CADENCE and CURRENT SPEED are ESSENTIAL PARAMETERS for SERIOUS CYCLISTS.

>>>Implementation takes about 4 LINES of CODE and NO added calculations or processor overhead<<<

I am a systems and software ENGINEER with 40 YEARS of EXPERIENCE.

STRAVA SUPPORT ---------------->>>> GET IT DONE NOW <<<<<<<<<<<

June 25, 2014, 12:02 PM
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Norman Heino

I just got the POLAR speed & cadence sensors and was very disappointed when I found out that Strava does not show their data on the recording screen. The cadence data is used but the speed data does not show up at all. I would love to use Strava as a bike computer replacement but without realtime speed data I can't do that.

June 17, 2014, 8:33 AM
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Donald C.

I will start using a different app for my rides since Strava doesn't have the cadence monitor as you ride.

June 12, 2014, 10:45 PM
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Ron Smeets

+1

 

May 20, 2014, 1:37 AM
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Simon Nielsen

+1

Check out how Endomondo's activity screen customization. Be inspired - it's quite good :)

May 20, 2014, 1:10 AM
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Ron Smeets
+1
May 17, 2014, 7:54 AM
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Norbin Cruz
I have been using Wahoo App (available for both iOS and ) then loading the information to Strava.
April 17, 2014, 6:23 PM
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Andrew Tang

Give me a display screen I can customise myself, so *I* and NOT Strava can choose what to display or not to display.

I was planning to upgrade to a Premium account but looks like I'll put a hold on it, if Strava can't show me what I want to see when I ride.

April 17, 2014, 6:13 PM
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Gareth Hall

Ian, I will let it lapse this month, and see what I am missing when it does.

G

April 6, 2014, 8:43 PM
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Ian Duff

Get the RFLKT+. It has temp and baro pressure. Baro pressure gives sketchy altitude, to compare with the sketchy altitude from the iPhone GPS. Strava gets their climb data from map elevations, so altitude data is like pissing yourself while wearing your black bibs, it's nice and warm, no one notices, and it really has no bearing on anything. Temps, OTOH, are fun to see after the ride.

Let your premium subscription lapse, see if you miss anything. If so, re-up, I'm sure Strava will take your money. If not, cool.

April 6, 2014, 6:17 PM
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John Young

Thanks Gareth and Ian. I'm ordering one today!

April 6, 2014, 1:43 PM
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Gareth Hall

John, I have the exact setup you are after, RFLKT+, BT HR and the Blue SC, all work together like a charm, you won't be sorry. I am running Wahoo Fitness app and on the weekend did 50k and the battery on my iphone4s was at 69% after the ride, I'm confidant I could do 100k easily with no troubles.

Just need to figure out what I miss getting if I cancel my Strava subscription and just go back to using the website non paid.

G

April 6, 2014, 1:19 PM
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John Young

Thanks Ian, I missed your other comments earlier. I will definitely be buying the Wahoo RFLKT (or RFLKT+) Having a quick look, I love the idea. I just got a new bike, upgrading from my 18yo road bike, and decluttering the handlebar is a priority. Do you know much about the RFLKT vs RFLKT+? I have a wahoo BT HR sensor and was thinking of getting the cadence/speed sensor. I am re-assured by your comment about the battery life. Like you, I'm already seeing Strava as a desktop only function. I also agree that the website is excellent. I have a power meter on my home trainer and the power vs HR graph are invaluable for analysis of my workouts. Thanks for your help.

April 6, 2014, 6:01 AM
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Ian Duff

John, consider getting a Wahoo RFLKT. It will mirror/reflect (see what they did there?) whatever you choose from selected apps on your iPhone. Keep your iPhone protected, and screen off. Battery life of my iPhone in this state is exceptional.

Cyclemeter is a particularly good iPhone app to reflect, as it's very configurable, the Wahoo Fitness app is another good one. Unfortunately, the Strava mobile app is next to useless.

April 6, 2014, 5:19 AM
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John Young

Great Suggestion. Please consider the ability to see all the "live" data by pressing just the home button (like iPod function on iPhone). i.e. don't need to swipe to see the "live data".

Leaving the screen on all the time will just waste battery. Pressing the home button once will is a good compromise for people with iPhone mounts on their bikes.I think this will eliminate the need for a bike computer and Garmins all together.

 

I'd like to see the live data like HR, Cadence, Speed (even power) in large numbers with lots of contrast. Then the screen can go off again after a few seconds. Swiping the home screen to see the data can be tricky with the various plastic weather proof covers for the phone - I want my hands back on the bars and eyes back on the road ASAP.

April 6, 2014, 4:32 AM
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Tim Clark

That’s a fair point, I've still got a subscription until June. I guess I'll have to make a judgement call after that.

April 4, 2014, 10:49 AM
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Ian Duff

Tim Clark: no! no! no!

Continue using the excellent Strava website. Just forget about using the markedly inferior Strava mobile app.

April 4, 2014, 8:41 AM
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Tim Clark

How sad, CycleMeter it is then. Is this goodbye Strava for me?

April 4, 2014, 8:37 AM
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Gareth Hall

Just installed the Wahoo rflkt+ and Blue SC, got it all setup along with the Wahoo heart rate monitor, all working like a charm. The wahoo app has a simple 1 button upload to Strava now, too easy. I'll run Wahoo Fitness ans Strava App on my next ride and see what the difference is in the data uploaded.

 

Do I still have to pay the yearly subscription to the Strava website to see all the extra info I am uploading ? Or can i just cancel my monthly sub and it will still show heart rate etc. ?

 

G

March 18, 2014, 3:02 AM
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Salty Pete Lin

Cyclemeter just came out with a new version and it is able to share directly to Strava, so there's no point of using Strava app anymore. The new Strava is a step backwards. Instead of adding speed sensor support the time was spent on making the feed less user friendly. Now it shows huge maps, which means now you can only see 2 entries in the feed, instead of 5-6 in the previous version.

March 15, 2014, 5:30 PM
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Ian Duff
Just saw the major upgrade to the mobile Strava app. Completely underwhelmed. Strava, get rid of your mobile app product manager. They are adding nothing to your market presence, and are siphoning valuable developer resources away from continued improvements to your excellent web site. Get your M&A team to look at Abvio.
March 13, 2014, 9:10 PM
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Rui Nelson S.

I hope Strava keep up, with, apps like Cyclemeter (a lot of options) and Topeak (great in ride display), or I will be changing to another site. No way I'm gonna pay for this service. If gets better, I might!

March 13, 2014, 10:11 AM
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M.V. Smith

Hi Elle, your last "encouraging" comment to keep giving you feedback was in 2012!!! your still looking for feedback? as a senior cyclist there is a limit to the number of 2 year segments I have left!!! In the short life of the internet many thousands of companies have gone out of business because they didn't listen to customers ...anybody seen Gateway, Lotus etc. recently?

March 13, 2014, 6:42 AM
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Chris Howlett

Thank you all for the advice.

With no cadence & HR displayed in real time, the Strava mobile app isn't going to cut it for me. I do question the value of the premium subscription and will give serious as to whether I renew.

Time to pick up a Garmin Edge 810!

March 12, 2014, 3:06 PM
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gordon griffin

Getting close to 2 years now, and not a hint from Strava that they are inclined to fix this.  Poor show.

I've just cancelled my Strava Premium sub.  What's the point of paying for heart rate analysis if I cant see HR while I'm riding, or having a cadence sensor at all if I cant see that on screen.  When Strava take a bit of notice and add options to display cadence on screen and have the screen stay on I'll happily resubscibe.  Till then, I'm damned if I'm going to pay for Strava and run Wahoo to get a usable display on a ride.

March 10, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Ian Duff

I will suggest everyone look at the Premium membership as having significant benefit on the website, and to consider the Strava mobile app as markedly inferior to virtually every other available cycling app. Premium on the website offers some Really Cool analysis tools, among other things.

There are a number of superior mobile apps (Cyclemeter is my personal fave; there are others *almost* as good) that can export data to the Strava website, making the Strava mobile app nothing more than a waste of time, and a divergence of Strava resources away from continuing to develop their cool web site.

Strava, just go buy Abvio, please, and be done with it!

March 10, 2014, 11:00 AM
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Norbin Cruz

Not being able to do cadence is making look elsewhere. I was about to purchase the premium subscription but this has changed my mind. At first I thought it was I doing something dumb and was very surprise to find out the application isn't capable of it.

March 10, 2014, 10:47 AM
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Kevin K
If anyone is interested I just upgraded to a garmin 810 and have a Kickstarter RFLKT+ up for grabs going on ebay any day
March 9, 2014, 8:33 AM
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Mick Neal

I would recommend the newer RFLKT+ that has an Ant+ receiver/relay so you can use Ant+ sensors without needing a dongle for your iPhone.  A cheap extended battery case would give you an emergency reserve for your phone also and give more than enough protection, the super beefy cases are sort of overkill.

March 9, 2014, 8:13 AM
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Ian Duff
Oh yeah, one additional thought. With your iPhone safely tucked into its Lifeproof case in your jersey pocket, reflecting its display on a Wahoo RFLKT (see what they did there?), your battery life will be fine.
March 9, 2014, 7:59 AM
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Ian Duff
Chris Howlett: you're on the right track. Get Cyclemeter, or the Wahoo Fitness app, and forget the Strava mobile app. Strava excels on the website, and beyond sucks on mobiles. You might consider a Wahoo RFLKT as a head unit. A combo of Wahoo Blue HR, Wahoo Blue SC, Wahoo RFLKT and Cyclemeter app will be less expensive than a Garmin 510. This assumes you've already got an iPhone 4S or 5.
March 9, 2014, 7:57 AM
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Chris Howlett

I'm a Strava Premium user for both running and cycling. I've just invested in a new bike and I'm contemplating whether to purchase a Garmin Edge or whether I can make do with the following combo:

iPhone 5, Life Proof Case & Mike Mount, Polar Bluetooth Heart Rate monitor - all of which I already own, and then purchase the Wahoo speed & cadence sensor (or similar).

If Strava doesn't display cadence in real time in the recording speed (which is essential), then it is an easy decision - Garmin it is.

Can someone from Strava explain why it is not there and if it is on the roadmap?

Has anyone had experience of the same setup that I'm suggesting above? Other than poor battery life on the iPhone, is there anything else I should be aware of?

 

 

March 9, 2014, 1:17 AM
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Rui Nelson S.

Has Elle said, I'm voting for this feature. Another issue is this the fact that the app not seems to gather data from the speed sensor, something that would give greater accuracy to the distance ridden, eliminating the gps errors. For a good data layout to use during ride, please take a look, to the topeak app, and you will see, all the data right there to be seen during the ride, much like the Garmin devices. If you guys add this features, the strava app, would greatly be more appealing. Making the change to a premium user, a sweeter deal.

March 1, 2014, 1:00 PM
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Darrin Southern

on today's ride, I found that if you click the icons for the connected devices (at the top of the screen) a popover appears, with the cadence and heart rate. it's small, and we already have the heart rate on the main screen, but it's actually there. 

what it really needs is the ability for the user to select which figures are displayed on the main screen . . .

March 1, 2014, 4:35 AM
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Elle Anderson
Community Support

Thanks for all the feedback! I've moved this post to the section for Feature Suggestions. Please continue to vote on this feature, and leave your comments. Your input on this is always much appreciated, and your opinions heard! 

February 27, 2014, 3:18 PM
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Peter Bain

+1 for me to. Current, average speed and distance traveled are all critical to me while riding. I am only new to cycling so I want to be able to monitor those things to push myself to improve my fitness. The only plus I have found with Strava is the Social side, and there is absolutely no way I am paying for the Premium membership for that.

February 27, 2014, 2:23 PM
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Steve Oreo

+1

high contrast mode + cadence info are essential for pro rider.

otherwise it's just pushing user out for other apps or using strava as second level tool for its social media with other riders.

February 20, 2014, 5:48 PM
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Ludovic Le

+1

=> Premium user also

February 2, 2014, 3:28 AM
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gordon griffin

+1.  I can see no technical or other reason for not including cadence on the display - there is plenty of room, and what's the point of collecting the data if you're not going to display it (there's relatively little point IMO in analysing it after the ride).  So what's the point of pairing the sensor?

 

Also +1 on current speed, as average speed for the ride is often a bit moot given hills or traffic lights etc.

As a premium user I'd like to see an ETA or a good reason why not from Strava, or like so many above I may have to look for a new system.

January 8, 2014, 1:42 AM
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Frank Forcier

I'm really confused with Strava.  They're idea is great. They've even come out with a nutrition thing in Spring but they can't do cadence?  Seriously???  And for some reason iPhones seem the choice rather than the other 73% of the population using something other than an iPhone?  I think I'll find another service.

December 29, 2013, 3:46 PM
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Kevin K

All of you out there that would like you cadence displayed, Get a Wahoo RFLKT or RFLKT+ its displayed in beautiful LCD .. :)
Along with HR, mph and averages even got watts got to love strava.

November 20, 2013, 6:15 PM
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Salty Pete Lin

Under the wahoo iOS app settings - biking - data sources, it has: none, combo speed & cad, gps. I generally prefer speed&cad for distance calculation, since GPS drift varies quite a bit. I've been on group rides where the fastest guy ends up being 10 seconds slower due to GPS drift. Terrain and weather can result in +/- 5 seconds for regular conditions. On over cast days with mountainous terrain, I've seen drift as bad as 15 seconds. A friend of mine made this joke segment http://app.strava.com/segments/3793357 which says I went 57mph up hill. Clearly I wasn't any where near 57mph, it was more like 17mph. Strava is fun, but KOM's are really accurate. I mostly use it to motivate myself and try to improve on my segment PR's.

October 10, 2013, 5:46 PM
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Graham Leigh

One thing I can't find - but am assuming - if a Wahoo Blue SC is paired, does it overide the GPS speed/distance calcs within the Wahoo fitness app? - we've already said it doesn't within Strava (for some reason) and does in Cyclemeter?

October 10, 2013, 5:36 PM
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Salty Pete Lin

I didn't know that. So it's like 5-6 clicks from cyclemeter to upload the gpx to strava. In my case I run both apps, so the download is just for my own backup and data analysis. if cyclemeter adds strava to share option, then it would be even easier.

October 10, 2013, 5:33 PM
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Kevin K

Peter Li,

Getting your ride on Strava from Cyclemeter is easier than that.

Rather than emailing yourself the .gpx or.tcx file just send it to upload@strava .com job done.

Just make sure you send it from the email account that you log into Strava with.

October 10, 2013, 5:18 PM
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Salty Pete Lin

In the interest of education, uploading rides from cyclemeter isn't one click. What you do is email yourself the gpx file, then you use the file upload feature on strava website. Here's how I use both apps on my daily rides. At the start of my ride I start both cyclemeter and strava. During the ride, my iPhone5 is in my back pocket. During the ride I focus on riding, instead of looking at a bike computer. When I used bike computers, I was staring at it too much. At the beginning of this year, I removed my bike computer and tried to gauge my effort by feel. This helped me improve my riding technique, which made it easier on group rides.

One thing I've noticed is that apps that use GPS to calculate distance is generally off by 1 mile for every 25 miles. Since cyclemeter uses the speed sensor to calculate distance, it gives you a more consistent measurement. I use strava just for segments and discovering new routes.

October 10, 2013, 11:04 AM
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Ian Duff

Cyclemeter vs Wahoo Fitness perhaps deserves its own thread, but I'm leaving it here, as this comparison (perhaps expanded to include other iPhone apps) is the only viable iPhone app solution to speed/cadence/HR while riding. Note, "real" cyclecomputers, like Garmin and their ilk, are also viable solutions.

First, make sure whatever app you select allows exporting your workouts. If not, you're locked in. I'm looking at you, MapMyRide. Bzzzt. Nice try, thank you for playing.

Second, evaluate how you will use an app during a ride. Will you be looking at it on your iPhone in some sort of a handlebar carrier, or will you be reflecting its measurements to a RFLKT? Cyclemeter and Wahoo Fitness are each excellent here, either direct view or RFLKT, not a lot to distinguish them, although Wahoo Fitness has better power reporting.

Third, evaluate how you will use an app at the end of a ride. Will you be uploading your ride to Strava? Wahoo Fitness is better here, although Cyclemeter isn't too far behind.

Fourth, evaluate how you will use the app off the bike. History gives Cyclemeter an edge. This is the only place the Strava app is even marginally useful to me, allowing me to peek at my feed from the café.

I use Cyclemeter primarily, with my iPhone turned off and in my back jersey pocket, reflecting its data to a RFLKT on my handlebars. I suspect I'll switch to the Wahoo Fitness app when I get a power meter, but by that time, who knows? The apps are cheap enough that you can get both, and give them the taste test.

October 10, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Robert Reich

Bummed I was really enjoying the data and design of the Strava iPhone app after my rides and excited to see how adding a heart rate and cadence sensor from Wahoo could increase my overall fitness.

The only real fault I had previously discovered with the app, prior to this morning, was the complexity of finding new rides, I'm sad to learn about fault number 2, one more and Strava's out. I guess its time to start testing other iPhone apps: Wahoo, Cyclemeter and MapMyTracks seems to be worthy candidates. Any others?

October 10, 2013, 9:50 AM
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Salty Pete Lin

I have cyclemeter, strava and wahoo app on iPhone 5. I'm using it with polar H7 and wahoo s/c sensor. Cyclemeter is much better than the wahoo cycling app in my bias opinion. Uploading gpx files to strava is easy. Cyclemeter gives you nice summaries by day, week, month and year. It also lets you select an existing ride and gives you audible splits like "you're x seconds faster/slower than pr". The UI of cyclemeter is also much better than Wahoo free app. I've also tried 2 other bike apps that aren't worth mentioning.

October 9, 2013, 6:10 AM
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Gareth Howell
I've got both the wahoo fitness app and cyclemeter and I far prefer the wahoo one.
It's only a few quid so no big deal to try both as you'll have your own preference.

There's really no need for the Strava app. Wahoo fitness is better then at the end of the ride one click uploads to Strava. It's the Strava website that is fantastic, the app is poor.
October 9, 2013, 1:31 AM
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