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Xbox-style achievements/milestones for notable Strava activity

Jason Schafer
suggested this on July 13, 2012 11:39 AM

I submitted this to the ticketing system (which is the starting point for formal feature requests). The response was appreciative but they said it was a direction they weren't looking to go right now. They suggested I post in the general forums to gauge interest. So that's what I'm doing here.

 

KOMs / segments are terrific, but it would be cool to implement xbox-like achievements and accrue "strava points" or something like that. This is separate from KOMs / segments and would be per-individual.

Examples:

  • "'Monthly 1,000' - Ride 1,000 miles (or km) in a month" (40 points)
  • "'Century' - Complete a ride of at least 100 miles." (25 points)
  • "'Polka Dot' - Complete a category 4 [or 3, 2, 1, HC] climb" (5 points)
  • "'Usurper' - Oust someone's KOM/QOM on a segment with at least 10 competitors" (5 points)
  • "'Wall Climber' - Complete a categorized climb with at least 13% grade" (10 points)
  • "'Eww, Roads' - Complete a ride with at least 1 segment without touching a road." (5 points)
  • "'Eww, Mud' - Complete a ride with at least 1 segment without going off road." (5 points)
  • "'Mile High Club' - Climb at least 5,280 feet on a ride." (10 points)
  • "'Time Trialer' - Average at least 20mph on a ride >10 [or whatever] miles." (10 points)
I think this would make Strava even more competitive and add a fun, new dynamic to its already competitive nature (and possibly make it even more addictive than it already is, if that's possible).
 
Thoughts?

 

 

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Jason Porter

This is a great suggestion! It would further "gamify" the Strava system to provide additional reinforcement and positive feedback over the existing social Kudos and competitive analysis. VERY cool.

July 13, 2012 11:49 AM
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Chris Heerschap

I'd really like to see the segment matching algorithm fixed as a higher priority, (especially partial matches on loop segments) but I think this idea is positively brilliant, and should be implemented.  It would definitely make it more addictive than it already is.

July 13, 2012 11:55 AM
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Mitch McDonough

I just started using Strava. I am all about achievements. I was hoping to see this happen soon!

July 13, 2012 03:42 PM
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Spencer S.

This is a fantastic idea, I would love to see achievements and merits and whatnot being added to Strava. Strava is already fun, with the segments and leaderboards,  but this would take it to the next level. Great idea! 

July 13, 2012 06:18 PM
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David McGowan

I second this motion!

July 13, 2012 07:05 PM
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Charles V.

I too, think this is an awesome plan.

July 14, 2012 10:06 AM
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Bryce Anderson
Great idea. I've been on the fence about paying for the premium membership and this could definitely help sway me in that direction.
July 14, 2012 07:30 PM
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Michael H.

This is a great idea.  I think more people would talk about their "achievements" and therefore get more riders to use Strava. :-)

July 15, 2012 05:14 PM
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Mark Harris
I think this is a great idea too, but i agree with Chris, id like to see Strava sort out a few of thier core issues first, in particular with segments. Also, strava are providing a 3rd party api, soemthing i think could be very exciting - this could open up strava to allow other websites to priovide these kind of extras, leaving strava to concentrate on giving a rock solid platform.
July 16, 2012 08:05 AM
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Phil Everitt

This could be a good motivator to do something different.  Dust off the mtb or TT bike.  Excellent idea, good product differentiator too.

July 19, 2012 01:48 PM
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Thom C.

I'm not convinced this would work as proposed, but I do like the idea of achievements based on something other than solely speed; after all that's all Strava segs are about--how fast. This kind of thing opens up Strava to dedicated, but not necessarily fast, riders--and opens up more customers to Strava!

July 21, 2012 10:06 PM
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Justin Pike

Anything to motivate me to ride harder and faster :)

July 27, 2012 11:36 PM
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Mark Middleton

Im also a gamer and i think hell yes! Its pretty amazing how much of an effect these can have on people!!

August 07, 2012 12:57 PM
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Dave Nimmo

+1, this sounds like a good idea :) Would add another element of competitiveness instead of just over short segments

August 16, 2012 06:11 AM
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Peter Steel

+1

August 16, 2012 07:44 AM
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Pete Salmon

I too had a similar idea and suggested this to the Strava team -would of been nice to see this idea appear in the  improveementss list for people to vvote on.

 

An idea for 'awards' or 'badges' or 'achievements' ....etc

For example, a visual pictoral icon awarded to you when you....

Ride your first 10, 25, 50, 75 100, etc mile or km ride
Ride a 1/2/5/10 hour ride
Ride your first cat hc/1/2/3/4 climb
Ride your first 5/10/15/20/25 % gradient (maybe up or down)
Ride 10/25/50/75/100 etc etc segments
Reach 100, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000 etc etc recorded miles/km on strava
Record 100/200/300 etc miles/km in a set period, month, week, year etc
Record 100/200/300 etc hours in a set period, month, week, etc
Record 100/200/300 etc climbing m/ft in a set period, month, week, etc
Ride on 2/3/4/5/6/7 etc consecutive days

These 'badges' could appear as part of the bio/highlights section of my profile - but be assigned automatically. Would inject some competition not only on segments but more 'traditional' cycling achievements, similar to cycling career 'palmares' of the professionals. Would also be a good way to instantly understand the level of the persons profile your looking at - friends etc

Im sure there would be others to add, and it could be replicated for running - but I don't run so wont offer any suggestions there.

August 19, 2012 07:44 AM
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Thom C.

@ Pete, that's a great and fairly comprehensive list--and it would be easy to add geographically-inspired badges too:

 

* Pikes Peak

* Crater Lake

* Lake Tahoe

* Death Valley

* Appalacian...er...anything?

* Riding in each Foreign Country (Yes, come on, Canada counts)

 

and et c.

 

Thom

August 19, 2012 05:16 PM
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Thomas Price

Great idea, just to add a few more "achievements":

- 10,000 km in a calendar year

- 100,000 m vertical elevation in a calendar year

- etc

August 19, 2012 09:19 PM
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Pete Salmon

Strava staff - It would be good if this suggestion found its way onto the feature requests list, allowing people to vote to support the idea - gain a better understanding of demand.

After all, we already have a 'Separate Nordic Skiing as an Activity on Strava into Classic/Skate'  topic on there which seems which seems quite niche - would be good to gauge interest in this too.

August 20, 2012 01:21 PM
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William Darwin

Great Idea, I would really like to see this implemented!

August 21, 2012 08:37 AM
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Jason Schafer

While this topic is the second-rated one in this forum, I think it may still not have as much backing as it would need to get the Strava staff on board to respond. It would be helpful if people following this thread spread the word to other Strava users to boost interest (assuming they have the interest). Getting others to comment and indicate support of the idea is probably the best way to elevate the profile and get the Strava staff to act.

August 21, 2012 09:32 AM
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Jonathan Bond

I agree achievements are a great idea.   Additionally it would be cool if you could also 'level up' your own Strava rank based on a combination of those achievements, along with your total milage, suffer score, power band stats etc.

August 23, 2012 02:27 PM
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Chris Heerschap

Acheivements are a cool idea, but if this gets implemented before improving the segment matching, that'd be bad.

August 25, 2012 05:06 PM
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Davin C.

Sounds like a good idea. I think the achievements should be slightly harder. I believe that segment matching (out and back, loops) should have a higher priority.

August 29, 2012 03:36 PM
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Jorick D.

I like the idea of badges more than gamifying everything. One problem I see is with the way the segments are implemented now, for example a HC climb usually has several overlapping segments of lower categorized climbs which would really skewer your points. But moreover I really really hate the idea of  "ranks" or levels and I don't feel this gamifying would steer the community in a good direction at all. Sure make some badges to keep people striving for unachieved goals, but please stay away from continuous point or level scales.

August 30, 2012 01:14 AM
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Christian V.

I think FourSquare is an even better example.

August 31, 2012 06:20 AM
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Jamie Klein

Would be a great feature.

September 01, 2012 06:05 PM
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Paul Wilson

great idea and again, something i would consider paying a small amount for, as opposed to power analysis/hr stuff which doesnt interest me

September 07, 2012 11:51 AM
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Bill Tober

This is an excellent idea!!!

I also like that Nike+ (for running only) allows you to create your own challenges and gives you virtual trophies for completing or winning them.

The challenges can be Competitive:

First to ride 100 miles

Fastest 10 miles

Most miles in October

or Cooperative (everyone has to complete the challange - if everyone does, everyone gets a trophy):

Everyone ride 100 miles in October

Everyone rides 20 times in October

 

Both the user-created challenges and the Xbox-like achievements would be very motivating!!!

September 07, 2012 07:25 PM
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Marc N

Awesome Idea.  

Those of us who play FPS know how hooked you can get into getting that next badge or achievement.    Love the idea of the challenges having those as well.... maybe even plays into a ranking system - more achievements you get, the more you move up the ranks....

September 12, 2012 01:36 PM
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Rafael Sieber

+1 it would be Awesome

September 20, 2012 05:52 PM
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Dylan Hager

I could see quite a bit of benefit in this getting more people to enjoy the achievements.  Personal record achievements are great, but having something else to strive for can always add some extra fun into the ride and mix it up a bit. 

Hopefully Strava considers this. 

September 25, 2012 01:28 PM
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Mat Gordon
Strava Support

Hello all - 

Thanks for your feedback.  While I can't give you any specifics or a timeline, we're currently putting a lot of work into our Premium offerings, and this will eventually include some pretty cool new functions around Goals AND Achievements.  This should be particularly interesting to those of you riding with power meters.  That's all for now... But be patient - like some of you have mentioned there are some things that by necessity are a higher priority - and hopefully you'll like what you see.


Thanks!

Mat

Strava Support Team

October 04, 2012 03:17 PM
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Peter Mellows

This is something the community could do as well.

One of our local riders set up this excellent script/site - Race Shape

Just copy it onto your bookmarks bar, then click on it while you're viewing a segment.

There is no reason why any other developer could not do what you are asking :)

October 04, 2012 03:42 PM
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Greg Gibson

Love this idea. It's a nice way to reward diversity of riding.

October 07, 2012 07:20 AM
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Ben Asbury

That sounds like a good idea.  You would want several progressively harder versions of the achievements to encourage people to keep improving. 

October 09, 2012 12:14 PM
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Jesse Shotland
This idea blows my mind in its geniosity and simplicity. Let's get strava to do this! KOMs and CRs are nice, but it's too hard to get them sometimes and I don't want to go on a specific ride just for a KOM. I'd like to go on any ride and say "you know what, I'll hit 30 mph and maintain it for 30 seconds on flat and get that achievment!".
October 19, 2012 10:38 AM
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Laura Hulme

Good to see that Strava staff (thanks Mat) have responded to this thread - there's some great ideas being talked about! There's a growing number of loyal Strava users here in the UK - and whilst I am enjoying the privilege of being a woman (easier to get on leader boards probably because there are just less female cyclists using Strava over here) - some of my male friends have given up using it, because its just too hard to achieve anything. I know that's not the point of cycling, but it *is* part of the fun of Strava. Maybe expanding the range of achievements could encourage more users to continue to push themselves?

October 25, 2012 03:35 PM
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Alex Bird

+1 would be awesome!

November 07, 2012 03:28 PM
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Scott Slade

ditto this would be great!

November 29, 2012 02:09 AM
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Kevin Keyken

+1!

December 08, 2012 01:21 AM
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Amy Kaucic

My kids would really like this!

December 29, 2012 07:51 AM
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Alvin Barnard

+1 , brilliant Idea.

December 30, 2012 05:29 AM
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Mihir Sathe

I think an 'Everest' achievment for climbing 29,029 ft in a certain amount of time (2Weeks? Month?) would be cool. 

January 06, 2013 03:25 PM
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Philip A

Not sure what the point would be as everybody would very quickly get all the achievements they could and then that would be the end of it much like an XBox game.

Pointless.

January 08, 2013 08:13 AM
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Bill Tober

Wow - everyone likes the idea except Amos (troll) - so I guess there's no reason to add it.

January 08, 2013 08:17 AM
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Philip A

So people aren't allowed an opinion now Tober?? Maybe you should look up the definition of troll before you use the word as it makes you look stupid when you use words out of context.

Surely there are better way to improve the site than pointless points for doing a pre-defined list achievements.  Isn't this the point of the challenges??  I suspect lots of people would agree its pointless given the fact only 55 people agree.

January 08, 2013 08:24 AM
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Bill Tober

troll

January 08, 2013 08:25 AM
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Philip A

According to Wikipedia a Trol is “In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response”.

 

Therefore who is the troll me or you as you have resorted to name calling?

January 08, 2013 08:29 AM
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Jason Schafer

It may only have 55 people agreeing, but it's the 2nd ranking suggestion behind "download rides" (with 80-some).

You may have static achievements but you may also have recurring (monthly, quarterly, or seasonal) achievements as well. Xbox limits points to 1000 points per game (more with DLC) - you don't have this limit with Strava necessarily.

January 08, 2013 08:29 AM
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Davin C.

You don't think it would be somewhat novel to have badges for doing certain things?

I think it would be in Strava's best interest to add additional "achievements" as it could be a part of a strategy to counteract diminished interest as a result of getting very few PRs/Achievements/Overalls on rides that you have done multiple times.

January 08, 2013 08:44 AM
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Elle Anderson
Strava Support

Hi All - just a reminder that this is an informal forum to discuss cool ideas for new Strava features. None of the forums topics here are currently planned or have any guarantee of existing on the site in the future. We love hearing your feedback, no matter what you think about some of these ideas. Thanks!

January 08, 2013 08:50 AM
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Philip A

Davin, this is my point.  Once you get all the achievements you can based on acess to hills etc which people will do very quickly you will be exactly where you are now with nothing to aim for and the longer you use Strava before this gets implemented the harder it would be to get some of the suggested achievements as you won't be able to smash the KOM's in your area as you will either have them or they are out of your reach.

I think keeping people interested in Strava is very duifficult in the long run which is why hardly anybody pays for the service and this feature isn't going to make people subscribe so whats the milage in implementing it.

January 08, 2013 08:52 AM
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Jason Porter

Philip, if you don't understand the incentive and fun produced by gamification, then nothing we say is going to convince you that it's a real phenomenon that causes increased interaction and helps sustain long-term interest.

Strava itself is an experiment in gamification, that's one of the primary drivers of interest in the product. It's not just a GPS tracking tool. This suggestion would extend the reward envelope a bit and create a secondary (more casual) set of feedback loops for users that find their pattern of use falls somewhat outside the original high intensity KoM/PR concept.

Honestly, I think this is a great suggestion and I think the Strava team would be seriously remiss not to implement it. If they can wrap the periodic Challenges functionality into the product as smoothly as they have, then a real Achievements function should be similarly workable. Think of it as Challenges without the need for a Join button.

January 08, 2013 09:15 AM
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Alex Dove

It would be great to see acheivements like the one's you've suggested start appearing on Strava! I know it's been a while since this has been posted. Has the idea been shelved? 

January 09, 2013 08:50 PM
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Brett McGregor

Yes! I think that 'achievements' would be an excellent addition to an already great core product. As one person commented, once the initial honeymoon period of KOM/PR results run out, the level of interest diminishes. Also, not everyone is capable of getting a top 10 on a segment, expanding the possible achievements would capture the heart and mind (and body!) of many more everyday athletes.

An observation on the (new) Premium features - I think there is too much development of Strava targetted at those with power meters. I wonder what percentage of riders have power meters? I'd guess it would be a very small percentage. Just saying...

January 29, 2013 02:36 AM
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Davin C.

@ Alex Dove - the idea hasn't been formally considered by the team - this is considered a "General Discussion" Forum that isn't officially moderated. Therefore it hasn't been shelved as it has never officially been under consideration. Given their recent feature releases, which are typically non-structural additions to the site, I could definitely see them releasing this, especially if the people stop using the site.

January 30, 2013 03:42 PM
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Tim Rowe

Had thought about something similar,

Taking part in Challenges like the Strava Mile Blast gives you points. I just earned my 200mile Achievement in the Strava Mile Blast. This could earn me more points.

February 01, 2013 09:27 PM
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Mat Ledsham

I love this idea- particularly if you got a badge icon for each one. Make it a premium feature if you like!

February 02, 2013 07:59 AM
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David Gibson

Great idea! I agree as do all of your users above.

The Microsoft programming environment and innovation is something I think Strava would benefit from embracing?

Please release your great application on the Windows phone soon

February 06, 2013 03:04 PM
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Peter Netri

gamifying the cycling would be so much fun!

February 15, 2013 11:02 PM
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Mark Franklin

I like it, though I don't think I'd be getting many points!

March 10, 2013 09:31 PM
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Chris Jennings

I like it

March 18, 2013 05:34 AM
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Bryan Sweeney

Would love this would add extra fun to each ride.

April 02, 2013 02:04 PM
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Frank Kavanagh

Hello all, I was just about to post this very suggestion in the Request for Assistance section. As an avid PC/console gamer I'm wired to relish the challenge of achievements and was surprised and delighted to see the level of interest here. I think the ideas posted above are fantastic and would be a really nice way for us to push ourselves to do a little more than we really wanted to each time we went for a ride. 

I sincerely hope Strava give this some serious thought. Cheers.

May 20, 2013 05:26 AM
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Bennett Bakke

Great idea. Similar to Epic Mix for skiing / snowboard @ Vail Resorts.

May 29, 2013 03:43 PM
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James White

It would be nice to have an update on the trophy case issue.

June 02, 2013 05:02 AM
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A Simho

Good idea:

"Globe Trekker" - log Strava activities on X number of continents.

August 17, 2013 11:56 PM
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Alan Thompson

Please please please Strava, consider adding this into your development schedule.

I blogged about this sort of thing a while back, and came up with some new ideas to extend the concept. 

http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/2012/12/strava-give-us-more-achievements/

There is definitely a shelf life with just KOM's, and this would massively extend people's interest.  

You have only to look at Xbox games like Battlefield to see how long term accumulator style achievements can really extend people's involvement with the product. It''s an additional layer of motivation.

 

October 16, 2013 01:54 AM
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- Zaerdy -

+1 for this. Really a great idea.

October 26, 2013 09:27 PM
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Paul N

+1.  Totally agree.  Bring it on!

October 31, 2013 05:19 PM
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Chris Q

This would be awesome!

November 15, 2013 01:42 PM
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Mark Ketchum

+1

Also, a badge for each state you've rode or ran in would be nice.

January 23, 2014 05:51 PM
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Harald B.
And out of a sudden not clear to me why this feature isn't there since ever ... STRAVA DO IT! (I said "please")
January 24, 2014 11:48 AM