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Add more bike types, like "Single-Speed" and "Track Bike"

Elle Anderson
suggested this on April 24, 2012 01:49 PM

Request to expand on Bike types available in the "Gear" section of Account Settings on Strava.

Requests include:

-Track Bike

-Single Speed

-Hipster Bike

-Commute Bike

-Unicycle

 

To vote for filtered Segment Leaderboard results by bike type, go here.

 

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Sherri Thompson

I'd add Single speed as option for Road, Mtn and CX bikes

Ability to filter using bike types would be very cool on the segment pages. Then you can better compare "apples to apples" so to speak

April 24, 2012 04:05 PM
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Klemens Mantzos

it would be possible to compute the cadence too, if you are able to save your gear inches (or gear ratio) of your single-speed/track bike.

April 25, 2012 05:51 AM
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jon pulley
Would rather have the ability to view all the actual bikes used and a sub cat for type so I can compare times on my different bikes from one page.
April 28, 2012 05:37 PM
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Andy Oudyn
E-bike is required as well because it is very unfair comparing my commute with non-assisted bikes. Thanks
May 10, 2012 04:04 PM
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Mister Bill

E-bike should be a distinct activity, as in "Bike", "Run", "E-bike", rather than a different bicycle type.  That way E-bikers get their own leaderboards for segments and don't get their results included with human-only powered bikers.

Instead of or in addition to adding more bicycle types, users ought to have the option of specifying their own bicycle type and providing the common constants used in the power calculation such as CdA (coefficient of drag X area), Crr (coefficient of rolling resistance), etc.  This would allow users with unusual bicycle types (e.g recumbent HPVs, velomobiles, faired bikes) to get more accurate power and energy calculations.

May 10, 2012 08:33 PM
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Mister Bill

If leaderboards can be filtered by bike type, then simply adding an "ebike" bike type would be sufficient.  (I didn't see that request before I wrote the above comment.)

May 10, 2012 08:36 PM
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Steven Ellis

I know not many people ride them, but my unicycle rides look pretty bad compared to almost _any_ bike--yet I'm usually hitting a pulse rate of 160+--so having unicycle as a choice would be especially useful to me (frankly, even having 'other' as a choice would help!).

May 15, 2012 02:57 PM
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Joe Hoover

I would like to see the segments split up by type of bike.  I think SS would cover most everything.  If the segment is on dirt then it is safe to say it is an SS MTB. If it is on road, then it is fixed or SS.

I don't want to have to break down and buy a road bike but my KOMs are at stake.

E-bikes shouldn't count at all.  I don't use Strava to track my driving...

May 21, 2012 10:40 PM
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Andy Oudyn

An E-Bike is NOT an electric motorbike.  I am talking about an electrically assisted bicycle.  Except for the highly modified, you cannot ride an ebike without 'ever' pedalling, and sometimes 60km round trip is too far for an unassisted daily commute.  There is no malice here, if there is an option to add categories, E-bike should be one of them.  If you don't add it, E-Bikers will have no choice but to taint the results of non-assisted riders results.

May 22, 2012 02:17 AM
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Joe Hoover

I know what an e-bike and I am glad that you are not driving your commute.  There are many applications that track your rides, what makes Strava so much better it that it pushes us by adding competition.  I don't understand why you would want to compete on and e-bike.  Use any other app. to track you commutes but your e-bike doesn't belong on Strava.  As far as "E-Bikers will have no choice but to taint the results of non-assisted rider results", I make the choice not to drive the KOMs I want.  

May 25, 2012 10:33 AM
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Mister Bill
The driving analogy is not apt. Think of an ebike as a human only powered bike with a handicap. With a street-legal ebike it requires a great deal of human effort to show near the top of the leaderboard on a popular segment. Strava is the only app I've found that uses common, pre-defined intervals (segments). The current workaround to keep ebike results from tainting the leaderboards is to flag the ride. A more inclusive solution is to offer them their own category, bike type or activity type.
May 25, 2012 12:18 PM
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Joe Hoover

Why do you need Segments on your E-Bike? If I held on to a car up a climb I would not brag about it or compare it to other peoples' rides.  You should make all your E-rides private. "It is very unfair comparing my commute with non-assisted bikes", I agree.  " It requires a great deal of human effort to show near the top of the leaderboard on a popular segment", are you trying to get KOMs on you E-bike? If so why?  Isn't the point of and E-bike to not require a great deal of human effort?  If you are going to put in the effort, do it on a real bike.

May 25, 2012 02:21 PM
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Mister Bill
Why do you need segments on your road bike? Why are you hostile to the idea of ebikers having their own sandbox to play in? Riding a street-legal ebike does not make getting a roadbike KOM a "slam-dunk". It's not like driving a car or motorcycle by any stretch of the imagination. I use Strava because their fixed intervals (segments) are unique, and I like to track my performance on these intervals. At some point when enough ebikers participate it might be fun to have a little friendly competition. I tried making my rides private, but then they cannot be linked to from blogs or seen by non-Strava users. Ebikers have different reasons for riding. I ride an ebike because I like to go farther and occasionally faster for the same effort as on a regular bike. I generally work just as hard on an ebike as on a regular bike. There is nothing to prevent you or anyone from cheating any number of ways in order to achieve a high placing on a segment. The whole system relies on an honor system. At least Andy and I are being up-front about our rides.
May 25, 2012 04:18 PM
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Mattia Curto

Please add Track Bike, a lot of people train in velodromes!

June 07, 2012 03:31 AM
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Greg P.

Mountain biking should be a stand alone activity type.  Bike should be changed to Road Biking and Mountain Biking should be added.  That way, if you go for a road ride on your SS, you can select Road Biking + SS, and conversely if you go MTBing you can select that + your MTB.  Road biking and MTBing are very different activities and should be separated.  

June 07, 2012 05:04 AM
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Kevin Colgan

What about a hybrid with aero bars?!
off road vs on road would be a better filter

June 15, 2012 03:35 AM
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Max Plank

Another request!  20-inchers! (à la bmx/freestyle, which is what i train on)

And I'll second the request for unicycles as long as Strava promises not to start recording number of times falling down.

June 18, 2012 11:15 AM
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David Sigins

I use a Trek 7.2 FX for my daily commute to work.  Commuter Hybrid should be one of the choices.

June 25, 2012 09:38 AM
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George Davis

How about a recumbent as a second road bike?

June 26, 2012 07:24 PM
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Chris Liu

I've been using a Strida LT (folding/commuter bike) because I crashed recently and need to rehab my knee. It's not really fair to classify it as a road bike since my 16" wheels and low gear ratio will never be as performant as my real road bike. Not that I don't love my Strida, but come on! The thing tops out at around 12-15 mph!

July 09, 2012 09:45 AM
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Mujahid A.

I would love to have Unicycling included as a distinct activity.  I use Strava exclusively to track my progress doing mountain unicycling on a nearby switchback descent trail.  My descent times (13 - 16 minutes) are being compared to a mountain bike (5-6 minutes), so the leaderboard is a bit meaningless.

Regarding the falling that Max mentioned, I've tried to standardize my runs by repeating any section on which I fall.  Having to backtrack for 10-20 feet, remount, and re-attempt acts as a time penalty on the overall descent time.  It might be hard to even determine when a fall has occurred from 1 Hz GPS data, particularly given the GPS errors in some of the ride locations.

Elle indicated that she would need to see a relatively large number of unicycle requests from the Strava community before adding it as an activity type.  It seems there are quite a few unicyclists logging times on Strava - now we just need to coordinate a 'feature request' campaign.

July 13, 2012 12:24 AM
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Rich Powell

For mountain bikes, suspension is a substantial differentiator for downhill speed and occasionally for very rough flat or uphill segments.

To justify this as not being a pedantic request, I suggest 3 broad categories of no suspension, front suspension and full suspension. For downhill sections riders would expect to see substantial differences in times between these three sub-categories. I would assume that other categories of bike would not have suspension, or that this wouldn't enhance performance on the road.

 

Also +1 to the single speed / fixie request above. This makes a huge difference on fast sections and on sustained climbs.

July 24, 2012 08:04 PM
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Joan M

Ditto, I've done about 12,000km on 16" folder, and I can't enter that bike, as none of the types are even close

July 28, 2012 03:39 AM
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Will And Ly… V.

And tandems!  To make tandems fully  functional, Strava needs to make a tandem team athlete profile.   

July 31, 2012 12:45 PM
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Stuart Matheson

Ok my understanding is that the bike type is used to estimate wind resistance in power calculation. In that case, I would love to be able to select "road bike with kiddie trailer", which has a very different aerodynamic profile to everything else mentioned!

August 22, 2012 04:08 PM
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Kevin Barton

jeesh! - where does it stop? carbon vs steel?  There are so many bike variations, somehow Strava would have to come to a sensible rationalised selection.  I can see the sense of filtering the broad categories, but where would it end if they include all the niche rides? Bamboo trike recumbents with yellow flags and loaded panniers...?

I only ride fixed and accept that I top out in terms of cadence on some segments, but I'm happy to compare with geared bikes on KOMs.  That said, I think it should be one of the broad categories.

So, as a short list for the 'Broad Categories', how about (in no particular order):

BMX/Freestyle

Unicycle

Folding commuter

Road

Road - SS/fixed (contentious pairing!)

Road - tandem

Road - tourer

Road - recumbent

MTB - no-suss

MTB - hard-tail

MTB - full-suss

MTB - SS/fixed

MTB - tandem

August 24, 2012 11:54 AM
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Tyler Howarth

I would contest that SS/Fixed are not the same.  Continuous pedaling on a fixed drivetrain is much different than singlespeed or typical drivetrains.  

Inputting your gear inches would also allow strava to generate very accurate cadence.  

August 27, 2012 09:15 AM
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Phil B

There definitely needs to be a definition between bike types road/mountain. (but with mountain, I'd really like to see a definition between hard-tail bikes and full-suspension), would be great to see how your times compared to other bikes of a similar style.

September 10, 2012 04:59 AM
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Mark L

Take some baby steps and start out with a Single Speed Mountain bike category.  What many single speeders, myself included, really want to measure is how well I am doing against the geared guys.  Then you could create a whole new set of awards for Single Speeders when comparing SS to SS, but also leaving the comparison open to the regular analysis.   If that works out, then open it up to the CX guys, and finally the ss/fixed crowd.

September 17, 2012 12:40 PM
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Fig Newton

Add a penny farthing category.  I have over 2000km on mine and have had to fit it under road.  This throws off my road numbers juuuuust a little.

October 04, 2012 03:32 PM
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Dougal Wilson

Would be nice to see kickbike/footbike/scooter as a category as I have to upload my kickbike activities as a ride and it is closer to running than riding but the speed is faster and I would take out a lot of runners KOM's (heart rate and kj output is similar to running)

October 15, 2012 08:08 PM
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J milligan

While parsing bike types can get insane, I would like a "track" or "fixed gear" filter/setting to better compare my riding to others on my route.  Like many people I'm an urban rider on a fixed gear bike.  With 46x17 gearing I can never approach 25 mph average speeds.  tnx.

October 16, 2012 07:37 AM
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Jesse Shotland
I'm a fixed gear road cyclist and I find the lack of single speed , fixed gear, and track bikes very frustrating.
October 19, 2012 11:07 AM
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Byron W

+1 for adding support for fixed gear / single speed bikes. Not saying that none of the other suggestions should be added (they should) but as a fixed-only rider that's what I'd like to see most. Being able to put in my ratio/gear inches to calculate cadence, etc. would be nice.

November 11, 2012 05:54 AM
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Roman de Salvo

There are just too many kinds of bikes to fairly represent each one as a classification. Moreover, the classifications are constantly evolving. What I'd like to see is simply the ability to click on somebody's bike and see the details of their gear. I like entering the information about my gear, retiring components, entering new ones, etc. But as far as I can tell, it is currently a private thing. I would like to share it.

November 15, 2012 09:25 AM
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Kevin Barton

I agree that there are too many permutations to include everybody's cycling eccentricities, but I suppose there are a few more common groups (Road, Off-road, Fixie, S/S) and it's finding the point at which one 'draws the line' if one draws the line at all.  Who wants to be MTB-KOM on a section of road that would clearly be more quickly ridden on a road bike?  It's pointless isn't it?  And it could dilute the simplicity of Strava.

Some of these issues could be overcome by a few global 'clubs' which members can join (for example the club 'Unicyclists'), but there would have to be a setting so that only rides on one's unicycle would classify when filtering the KOM listings.  That wouldn't apply to fixie riders because they wouldn't be seen dead on a bike with gears! ;-)

November 15, 2012 09:41 AM
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Mujahid A.

Here's some data that motivates my interest in this topic:

I made a segment on a local downhill trail to track my unicycle descent times.  Some of the switchbacks are quite sharp and are difficult to ride through, so I typically fall one or more times during the descent.  With a 24" unicycle, I'm limited to about 6-8MPH, so comparing my times to mountain bike riders is obviously ridiculous.

Check out the leaderboard on this segment:
http://app.strava.com/segments/1247282

I'm way at the bottom with a nearly 12-minute time, while the fast mountain bikers are running less than 6-minute descents.

My recent 12-minute descent is a substantial improvement over my initially 17-minute ride, but no matter how fast I ride on my one wheel, I'll always be in last place compared to the mountain bikers. 

Here is data showing my progression of times, which is entirely masked by the unequal bike-type comparison:
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97680

I like Kevin Barton's list of bike types, which are hopefully sufficient to fairly segment the rides by achievable performance.

November 15, 2012 11:17 AM
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Jesse Shotland

I'm hearing a lot of "There are too many bikes!" 

 

All you need is a generic, vague, bike type.

 

Road

Mountain

Track

Time Trial

Unicycle

so on and so forth. 

 

You do not need:

 

Road

Single speed

Fixie

Track

Mountain

SS Mountain

Time Trial

Unicycle

 

Do you see what I mean? 

November 15, 2012 01:18 PM
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Kevin Barton

Hmm - it's the "so on and so forth" bit that's the problem - where to draw the line.  That's what's being discussed here.

I ride CX for off road and not mountain bike, so there's some segments where my bike will be an advantage and some where it will be a disadvantage.

On road I only ride fixed and so similarly there are segment pros and cons. Single speed has some advantages over fixed and visa versa.

Recumbents are faster on flat sections but not as good on hills.

Time trial is a sub-section of road bikes - where does one become the other?

Personally, I'm not fussed about categorising bike types because I choose to ride fixed and I guess I'm just not competitive about comparing myself to other fixers.  I do however like to stand my own against road bikes on segments where I can!

Mujahid A. - I guess it's pretty rare that you'll be able to compare your unicycle downhill time against another unicyclist's?  You have to admit that you've chosen a pretty niche steed!  When does one man's niche become more important (and therefore included in the categories) than another's?

I think if Strava surveyed a cross section of users to establish some percentages of bike types, they'll pretty quickly come up with the prime candidates for categories - and I doubt unicycle will be up there.  'Track' won't be too high either, whereas fixed and single speed, I'll wager, will have quite significant and separate followings.  

That would be the only way to solve it - present us with percentages.

And then we'll argue about discuss where to draw the percentage line!

November 15, 2012 02:12 PM
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Joan M

I'd just be happy about a category "other".  I wanted to record what I do on my folder, and differentiate that from my road bike, so it's showing up as a MTB.  I'd rather leave type blank.

November 15, 2012 04:05 PM
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Bryan Jackson

All this talk about bike type categories wouldn't necessary we were just able to select the bike types that we wanted to include in search results or segment comparisons. The list of bike types should still include all the options SS, MTB, Road, Uni, Fixy, CX, etc and you would just select all the type to include.  If you were forces to select just one category and sub category you wouldn't be able to compare types like CX and MTB when both of these frequently compete in the same event class.

Anyhow, good conversation on the topic.

November 16, 2012 05:50 PM
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Jesse Shotland

Strava Cycling is meant for serious cyclists. Serious cyclists do not ride fixies, they ride track bikes. So, no fixies.

A single speed is just another type of road bike or mtn bike. It's like having a mtn bike with a disk brake instead of calipers, it doesn't change the ride so much that you should call it another bike type. So, no S/S.


Here's the list of bikes I think should be available to choose from as options.


-Road

-Cyclocross

-Mountain

-Track

-Time Trial (totally different geometry from road bikes)

-Unicycle (which isn't totally necessary, but some people take it seriously)

 

November 16, 2012 06:01 PM
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Bryan Jackson

Jesse, really?  you don't see a difference between a SS mtb or geared but you're going to distinguish between Road and TT?   Sorry, I agree with the other stuff but not that  Road and TT need to be separated.

November 16, 2012 06:48 PM
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Jesse Shotland
You can make a geared mtn bike S/S. you can not make a road bike into a time trial bike. The geometry of the frames are just so different.
November 16, 2012 06:59 PM
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Kevin Barton

Jesse - Come on!  I regard myself as a serious cyclist.  I ride sportives, audaxes, time-trials, cyclo-cross and international touring as well as track riding at the velodrome.

I use a track bike at the velodrome, I use a fixed wheel bike (aka 'fixie') for all my road based riding except touring and I use a CX bike for CXing.

I would not use a track bike on the road because, a) It has tubular velodrome specific tyres, b) it has non-cartridge bearing hubs which for winter riding would spoil in weeks, c) the geometry and bar-type are just too uncomfortable for anything over 40 miles (let alone 100+ mile sportives), there's a minimum bottom bracket height for track bikes that don't suit all road riders and it doesn't have brakes, which where I live in the Cotswolds, UK, would be suicide.  It's a serious bike and many serious cyclist ride bikes like mine.  Mine was custom made by Argos in Bristol, UK from Reynolds 753 tubing. That's serious!

A track bike is what you ride on the track. A fixie is a fixed gear bike that you ride on the road.  It can be a track frame assigned to road riding and many trendy urban riders will do just that, but then just as many will use a converted old road frame or many of the fixed wheel bikes on the market which are definitely not track legal.  Don't forget that all serious road bikes were 'fixies' before derailleurs were invented and they were definitely not 'track bikes'.

And to say that S/S doesn't make much difference - what planet?!  Have you ridden S/S in a bunch on the road?!  Or on a cross-country single-track.  It's a very different ride and in no way comparable to the difference between brake types.  

I think the number of 'serious cyclist' that have bothered to comment on this discussion in support of a S/S or fixed category should persuade you to change your views. 

November 17, 2012 01:23 PM
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Bryan Jackson

Like I said earlier, you should be able to select as few or as many different bike types you want to compare your rides to.  This allows the list of bikes types to include as many flavors as one can think of and each rider can choose how they want to group them.

Thanks for all the input Kevin.  You do indeed know your stuff.

November 17, 2012 02:04 PM
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Kevin Barton

I'm inclined to agree Bryan.  If Strava do indeed implement a bike selection option, I think they have two options:

- List every bike type imaginable so as not to leave any 'serious' niche-bike riders out in the cold, or

- Try to hone it down to some realistic threshold of commonness.

The risk of the first is leaving someone out and the risk of the second is leaving more out and getting into long discussions about where to draw the line and whether to combine types, for example, fixed wheel and single speed, into one category.

And upon reading your post again, I see what you mean about selecting more than one category - filters currently are applied (to non-premium members) singly in Strava and you're probably right - for some, such as CX races, that may not work.

So, there's an invitation for someone to list all the bike types out there...!

November 17, 2012 04:20 PM
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Kevin Barton

Correction : all serious road bikes were S/S or 'fixies' before freewheels and derailleurs...

November 17, 2012 11:53 PM
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Jake Russell

I'd love it if fixed gear could be added and any further info required to help your algorithms ie. power

November 25, 2012 03:47 PM
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J WLF

Fixed Gear category along with some type of algorithm developed in order to compute negative wattage based according to gear ratio would be amazing.

18mph on a -7.4% average grade is slow as hell, but when resisting the pedals (fixed gear) is taken into consideration in order to control speed, there's a tremendous amount of "negative wattage" that's being put into said hill/segment/ride.

November 30, 2012 10:43 AM
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Klemens Mantzos

@J Boyle great idea! IHMO first useful comment.

November 30, 2012 11:25 AM
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J WLF

@fetz First of all, I humbly say thank you.

Also, it would be nice to have the ability to list certain things (like cogs for instance) in the "Gear" section so that we're aware of the miles/abuse that we put on a certain piece of equipment.

At this point in time, I have to list it as a cassette. Minor inconvenience, I know, but all it takes is a few keystrokes and this can be a permanent feature on Strava.

November 30, 2012 11:41 AM
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Jesse Shotland
Totally agree! One problem, though: Brakes. A lot of fixed gear riders have and USE breaks. While I think that's very silly and defeats the purpose, a lot of people just dont get it.
November 30, 2012 11:53 AM
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J WLF

Which is where the "Report This Ride" feature will have to be used.

Jesse, you and I both know that it's humanly impossible to go from 30mph to 0mph in no time flat on a fixed gear...and this is a symptom of brake assisted stopping. If said rider is listed as a fixed rider, but pulling stops like this, either he/she has legs as big as a house and no knees, or is using brakes. (I think this one is obvious.)

I'll admit, I ride with a front brake for emergencies (pedestrians, vehicles, etc), but I'll also admit that I'm terrified of the day that I have to use it because I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have a dinner date with the pavement and an appointment with my dentist.

November 30, 2012 12:07 PM
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Jesse Shotland
Having a front break is A-ok, so long as you don't use it. I'm considering putting one on incase my chain were to snap. I find skidding much mre natural for emergencies and I'd run int confusion if I had a break.
November 30, 2012 12:12 PM
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Cormac Cor… M.

I am ok with adding things like track bike, cyclocross bike, cruiser, etc. Things that are completely different bicycles. But you people saying you should add options to put things like full sus, hardtail, carbon, steel, 10 speed, pennyfarthing, tire widths or whatever, is kind of stupid and ridiculous. That is where the little description box is handy, if you really feel the need to let people know whether your carbon pennyfarthing has a suspension fork or not. I saw also the people saying "we need the categories like full suspension so I can have a leaderboard for my fat arse so I can get some self esteem boost!!" Which is just stupid. Thats like if in a mtb race there were different categories on what size frame, wheel, and how much suspension you have. Cycling is not about people's gear being fair to eachother. The "bond" between how much money one person has or what sponsors they have etc etc is all a part of the sport, and howgood you are at it.

December 15, 2012 08:19 PM
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James W

Differing wheel sizes and gearings, and thus the effect on power, would be awesome.

December 26, 2012 10:44 PM
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simon douglas

Having read some of these comments i've had to laugh - "Serious cyclists do not ride fixies". I dont want to start bashing people here because we're all enthusiasts (which is why we use the site) but come on. People with 'all the gear and no idea' dont ride fixies - they're the best form of winter training going if you live near any reasonable hills. I wish i was fit enough to do mine justice.

I would love to see a calculation for wattage or energy used based on some different algorithms for a fixed wheel. I think when you look at the other types of bikes the differences are pretty simple to understand - the biggest single difference between a road or MTB is rolling resistance and also some aero affect. Going from this to a single speed fixed there are many more variables whenever the road is downhill - how fast would you expect to go if you freewheeled and how many watts do you have to produce to hold a steady speed for example. This type of calculation would be an excellent addittion.

January 01, 2013 03:51 AM
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Jeremy Stemo

Support for "fatbikes" (like the Surly Pugsley and Salsa Mukluk) would be very nice to see.

January 07, 2013 03:35 PM
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Simon Oddy

Nice thread, great comments.  I too support the ability to add information about  the bike you are riding to assist in power calcs (sprockets/gear inches, or some other measurement as per Sheldon Brown).

 

I do a lot of interval training and use my fixie for strength.  At times I accelerate from zero up to 50kph on my 68" over a short distance.  I know this takes a lot of power (my legs tell me so), but Strava doesn't pick this up as it has no idea of the gear I am using.  I suspect it thinks that I am constantly changing up.  Doing this kind of exercise under controlled conditions I generate over 1000W.  Strava is lucky if it tells me I generate above 300W.

 

So, I'm a +1 for a way to input the bike cassette/chainring/wheel size settings and for Strava to calculate power using this.

January 12, 2013 12:53 AM
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The Kraken

I would vote for a simple "road" versus "trail" split.  This also applies to running

January 25, 2013 11:37 AM
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Ken Hoekema

Great discussion, folks!  I'd like to add a bit of clarification why I think it would be a good idea to be able to filter your ride results by bicycle type.  For me, it is NOT so I can feel better about myself by only comparing to other riders on the same type of bike.  I use Strava for training purposes, where I ride the same local trails many times a year.  I like to be able to track my progress against myself, so I know if my times are improving.  When I look at all my results for a certain trail, it puts them all together so that I have no way of knowing whether I was on my full suspension trail bike or my single speed rigid 29er.  This is not a vanity issue, but a training and usability issue.  Thanks for listening!

January 30, 2013 09:52 PM
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Nathan Hoover

Much as I like the features of strava, as a serious long distance unicyclist, I have to say I don't like calling all my rides bike rides. Might have to go back to MapMyRide which does have 3 different unicycle categories. There are of course a ton of different types of unicycles, and many different wheel sizes etc, but just a simple "Unicycle" would make me happy.

March 01, 2013 01:44 PM
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Kai Hansen

Having specific segments per bike will mean i dont get the road segments that i go through on my mountain bike and also so many off road segments are sanitised meaning a road bike will cope with them fine. 

Instead have the bike ridden show up on mobile/desk top  view with the segment achiments so  you can see what bike was used by the person on that particular achievement.

March 02, 2013 04:14 AM
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Richard James

I agree that it would be goof to differentiate between mountain and road when selecting activities. And perhaps even agree that a singlespeed option would be nice. However, I can add that into the bike name, and have.

However, what I'd really like to be able to do is, when viewing all my times for a particular segment, to be able to see what bike I was riding. Obviously, on many segments, my time on my geared squishy is going to be quite different than on my rigid SS. I realize I can click on the ride to see that info, but it doesn't make for a quick comparison.

And perhaps if bike were displayed when viewing all the times, that would go a long way to fulfilling many of these wishes, especially if people name their bikes accordingly. Right now, one of my bikes is named Stumpy. But if bike name were displayed, I'd change it to something like "2011 Stumpjumper FSR" so people would know it's a full-suspenion geared bike.

March 07, 2013 08:42 AM
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Phil B

The last comment by Richard James, makes the most sense I've seen!

Easy to implement and fulfills everything with it all getting overly complicated. As long as people label the bikes correctly would make comparisons quick and easy

March 08, 2013 03:05 AM
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simon douglas

Hi All, I think the point missed in Richard James's comment re adding the type of bike into the bike name is that if a seperate category existed for say fixed wheel, the algorithms used to estimte power could be more reflective of the real world.

As an example if I ride 15 miles on my fixie and the same route on my 'normal' bike I can have the same average heart rate suggesting my effort was very similar but strava will give a calculated power about 12% lower on my fixie because the speed is slower.

If you go out on a Sunday morning and beast yourself riding fixed up and down hills for a couple of hours its very demoralising to come home and have strava tell you you didn't work very hard :-)

 

March 08, 2013 03:40 AM
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Kevin Barton

What I hear quite a few people asking for is to be easily able to filter KOM results by bike type - having to look down a new column to ascertain what bikes people rode on (which relies on sensible labelling protocol being adhered to by members or my knowing what a 2011 Stumpjumper FSR actually is) is not as easy as clicking on 'Fixed Wheel' for example in the filter choices to the left.  

For the unicyclists or recumbents or even fixers, they would most likely have to browse several pages looking another of their bike type listed on a segment to compare their time on a segment with other riders, where as a simple filter will quickly bring all like bikes into a concise list.

This would also be a relatively simple and fool-proof system to implement simply requiring a choice to be made from a pull-down menu when entering a bike into the system.  Of course, like the rest of Strava, it's open to error and deceit, but it would work simply for the majority.

Now, it strikes me that people have been discussing this for quite a while and there's been no input from Strava, so I think we'll be chasing this issue forever round in circles whilst Strava may well not be listening to any of us!

STRAVA - ALLOW FILTERING BY BIKE TYPE!!

March 08, 2013 06:59 AM
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Matthew Pace

As someone whose only bikes are road fixies, I would like to see singlespeed and fixed gear options as well, to compare times against similar riders.

Gear ratio specifications for those two categories would also be awesome.

April 14, 2013 11:47 PM
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Rich Powell

For those of you asking about tracking specific bikes and how much mileage you have done on them, you can do this on MapMyRide.

However MapMyRide doesn't have the leaderboards that Strava has (or the large number of members). I think they want to add leaderboards.

So as a few people have pointed out, the question is how detailed to get with the breakdown of bike types.

Tandems are out of the question as they can have different combinations of riders and are rare.

Track bikes: Well let's say if you're riding on a velodrome, you are probably riding a track bike. If you ride a mountain bike on the velodrome, do you really have a case to ask for your own leaderboard? No!

Similarly for track bikes on mountain bike trails. Some combinations are improbable so why cater for them?

My proposal:

A member sets up each of their bikes in Strava, saves it, and re-uses it later. Leaderboards offer the option of overall or by that bike type only.

Main categories:

  • Road
  • Mountain
  • Track
  • Unicycle

Then sub-categories: Gearing, Suspension

Gearing

  • Geared (default for all bikes)
  • Single speed
  • Fixed gear (default for track bike)

Suspension

  • Rigid (default for most)
  • Hard tail (default for mountain bikes)
  • Dual suspension

This should cater for most combinations.

It is important not to have too many combinations or there will be no-one else on the Leaderboard.

For example 10 or so riders in my area have single speed hard tail mountain bikes, but only one other than me has a rigid single speed mountain bike, so that leaderboard is going to be quiet even though thousands of riders use the trails each week.

Taken to argument ad absurdum, how many dual suspension fixie recumbents are there going to be?

April 15, 2013 03:45 AM
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Rob O'Keefe

A lot of people are riding other bike types in London, for example single speeds. This functionality would be very useful.

I have just acquired a unicycle, and as soon as I learn to ride it I would like to record it as a bike type rather than just a bicycle.

I would agree with Rich Powell that a myriad of bike types may be less effective, so cover the main types and we will be moving in the right direction.

April 17, 2013 05:36 AM
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Graham Ashton

Another request for single speed and folders from me – I've got a 1940's single speed and two Bromptons. I ride a converted steel touring frame with a 5 speed sturmey hub a lot too, which I suspect doesn't count as "Road bike" as far as Strava's calculations are concerned.

April 17, 2013 09:54 AM
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David Ebling

Another vote for folding commuter! :)

April 30, 2013 04:16 AM
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Arjen Haayman
+1 I'd like to use strava for my velomobile without being accused of being 'unfair', which is nonsense of course.
April 30, 2013 08:46 AM
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Mário Piteira

What about a handcycle for disabled persons like myself. It will be impossible to compare my segments on a road bike before my accident in January with my future evolution with the effort of my arms and hands.

May 06, 2013 05:20 AM
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Luis Gutierrez

When adding bikes, please give more information about them.

ie, what kind of position, weight, etc you expect for each bike type.
something like this page would be useful too:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_urSQl6wUA5g/TTZFTUOs6FI/AAAAAAAAIe8/zeE_b...

Notice how they show a picture of the body position and a description of the bike and rider

June 01, 2013 09:58 AM
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Jeff Hodges
Please at minimum simply add "track bike / fixie" to the list of bike types. Presently I tag my track bikes as "TT bike"s, which is suboptimal. With respect to the suggested "single speed" bike type, I'd term it "single speed w/freewheel" to differentiate appropriately from "track bike / fixie". the intent is that "track bike / fixie" would encompass fixies used on the road (like mine) and the track. thanks.
June 02, 2013 12:36 PM
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• dontcoast •
I say let people describe their bike as they want and choose what info is shared. I may not choose to share what brand/group i own but would disclose bike type, weight and gearing. Surely people who pay for filters would like type, bike weight and gearing filters too. More importantly to me PLEASE let me select which bike before i start a ride on my mobile!
June 02, 2013 10:46 PM
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Jesse Shotland

What do we have so far? 

Road, TT, Mtn, and Cross.

 

We need at a minimum - Road, TT, Mtn, Cross, Track. That's at a minimum. It would be nice to have unicycles involved to. +1 to you guys. 

 

When you add track bikes, we need a simple gear ratio calculator to sync with the average speed and give a cadence.

June 02, 2013 10:53 PM
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Marinus -.

Please add a Velomobile as category. Very different to other bikes, but it really is a bike!

Many times my rides are flagged and commented by angry cyclists.

Now I and many others mark all our rides as workout, but of course that is not the right solution for this problem.

June 13, 2013 07:45 AM
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Que mo

I agree with Marinus.

Please add a Velomobile as a new category (also let bike weight be over 25 kg, mine is 45 kg)

June 13, 2013 10:03 AM
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Oliver Piper

Same here, please add velomobiles as category.
I didn't get any comments on my rides yet (probably because I'm not fast enough yet), but I would be glad to avoid comments in future as well.

June 21, 2013 06:14 AM
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Jaap Lameris

Please add velomobiles and recumbents as  new categories. Marking as workout or as private is not the solution.

June 27, 2013 01:27 PM
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Steve Isaacs

This request is over a year old! Please just add new bikes to the dropdown menu! 

Fixed Gear / Single Speed

July 02, 2013 07:49 AM
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Kevin Barton

You think they actually read these?!

They're just designed to make it feel like we are having a say

July 02, 2013 07:59 AM
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Que mo

Looks like  you're right. Request for Velomobiles is over 1 year old.

Still: I'd like to have Velomobiles added.

July 03, 2013 10:47 AM
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Liz Young

Please add recumbent to the "bicycle" type.

July 05, 2013 09:37 PM
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Vidar Slåtten

I support the suggestion of adding an e-bike type, along with allowing filtering of results based on bike types, as suggested in another feature request. Ideally, this types should also be split into street legal (max. 250W in the EU, 350W in the US?) and non-street legal (possibly with some wattage bands).

Competing with other e-bike users, or against yourself, if just as valid as any of the other activities Strava covers. In that respect, you could also make e-biking a separate activity, but that would require a lot of redundant work of re-creating the same segments for e-bikes, since there is pretty much a 1-to-1 correlation between routes for e-bikes and regular bikes. Leaving it as the same activity would also allow for e.g. downhill competition across bike types, where electric assist is of little or no significance.

July 11, 2013 12:21 AM
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Kevin Barton

But e-bikes should not feature in the overall KOMs, right?!  That wouldn't be right.

July 11, 2013 12:32 AM
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Vidar Slåtten

If by KOMs you mean the leaderboard of a segment, then assuming the filtering feature is also implemented, you might as well have the option of showing absolutely all rides on every bike type, which would include e-bikes. This would not make much sense on a uphill segment, as e-bikers would have an unfair advantage, but on downhill segments it would.You could then leave the default filter for the leaderboard to the kind of bike you yourself use, or perhaps a meta-category like "non-assisted bikes".

Not sure how to best deal with the actual notification and achievement of KOMs. Depending on how (and if) they implement a separation of bike types, one could either have a default "non-assisted bikes" category and KOM achievements are only given for those, or KOMs could become specific for bike types (an MTB KOM, a road bike KOM etc.). There may be other/better solutions than these. I anyway agree that noone riding a regular bike should receive the notification "you just lost your KOM" due to someone on an e-bike beating them up a hill :-)

July 11, 2013 01:11 AM
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Marloes Dries

Another vote here for Velomobiles and I'd like to see recumbents and Rowingbikes in particular.

July 24, 2013 12:21 PM
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Karl Mason

please add folding bikes,although I can happily get in some of the top tens o my work commute on it :)

August 16, 2013 11:33 AM
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Brian Haan

Just trying Strava for the first time.  I like the app but given the age of this thread I'm not optimistic for change.  I would be willing to pay for premium, but only if recumbent trike and handcycle were included.  There are some very competitive wounded warriors, accident survivors, and others who cycle on these geometries not because they're eccentric, but because the upright geometries of the current bike choices simply isn't an option given their health history or physical conditions.

September 01, 2013 01:25 PM
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Rob O'Keefe
I would really appreciate both fixed gear and unicycle. Please can you suggest a time frame as to when this can be done as I have requested before in the past.
September 10, 2013 09:40 AM
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Marc Humphries

+1 from me. Would be great to view a leaderboard by bike type.

I may have just done my third best time on that segment but would be good to know if the two quicker times were on my full carbon geared bike, rather than my steel framed fixed gear.  

September 13, 2013 06:16 AM
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Donnie Danger

I'd also like to see options for Single Speed and Fixed gear bikes....

September 30, 2013 12:13 PM
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Clive King

+1 and wheel sizes! 

October 06, 2013 01:05 AM
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Jeff Stanners

It'd be great to see some form of this.  Would be especially useful to be able to filter leaderboards by bike types.  It'd even be cool just to be able to filter my own results on leaderboards by bike to compare my rides.

November 05, 2013 03:24 PM
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Trent Trackbike

Yup, track bikes and fixed gear, please!

December 02, 2013 07:31 AM
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Patrick Moor

I'd love to see cargo bikes on there too, along with an increase of the max bike weight (currently only 25kg)! My bike, including my son, seat and baggage is easily 60kg+!

December 05, 2013 09:30 PM