suggested this on February 27, 2012, 1:45 PM
Add the ability to mark activities as Kayaking, Canoeing, Rowing on Strava
Stand Up Paddling
Activities that I tag as "rowing" (these are my indoor erg workouts manually uploaded) do NOT show on my training log as XT (cross training - my default is cycling). The time shows on the calendar, but not on the log. Also, though I select "rowing" as the activity, Strava will save it as "water sports", and I have to go back in and edit the activity to change it back to "rowing," sometimes more than once to get it to stick. And still, the activity does not show up as XT on the log. I have to change it to "workout" to get it to show. Am i missing something? Will there be a fix? Thanks!
Does this mean I will be able to record my various paddlesport efforts using the app, rather than just having the current run or cycle options?
Great to see the new activity types for manually adding activities on the website tho.
I'll finally be able to stop putting in my paddles as swims!
@Victor - the new activity types are coming in the next app updates: iOS to be released tomorrow, Android next week. Thanks for your patience.
@Dave - Looks like there is a stand-alone feature suggestion forum just for Unicycling: https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/26465624-Add-Unicycle-as-an-Acti...
@Victor - I'll check on that for you. I know it's coming in one of the next releases, but I should be able to track down more specifics.
Back in June this year you have made an announcement: "The day has arrived. On the website (coming soon to mobile apps) you will now see the options to classify activities for: Canoeing, Kayaking, Rowing, Stand Up Paddling, Surfing". Fast forward almost four months and kayaking is still missing on the Android app. I've pretty much given up on Strava's promises, but just out of curiosity: how much longer do we have to wait?
Sorry Tim Rodgers and Tim Burne! There is no way to switch segment data from one activity type to another. When you create a segment, it will always be attached to the activity type of the Activity it was created from.
Perhaps someone would like to add this to our Feature request section?
@Peter - excellent feedback to consider if/when we tailor segments specifically to water sports! Sounds reasonable that the segment system would match segments under different criteria for each sport.
@Dennis - also great feedback, and thanks for passing along. Unfortunately, we don't have many features specifically for rowing at this time.
@Tim Rodgers. I had this issue and contacted the "help" desk (a misnomer; read-on!). I included a list of ~30 or so segments to allow them to switch them. They said that there was no way to switch them, but instead of leaving it at that, they promptly deleted the entire batch of segments that I'd sent them. Even more gallingly the guy at the "help" desk I'd been in touch with then denied that he'd deleted them - claiming that it was as a result of an ongoing "segment clean-up" programme (utter nonsense as none of the other segments I've created have been touched). Once I asked him to restore these, he also claimed that there was no way to restore deleted segments... Anyway, this is turning into a rant from me. Sorry. I just want to warn you not to send a list of them to the helpdesk until you're absolutely sure that they can do what you ask.
I need some help from anyone?? I had marked many segments for my kayaking sessions under the 'Workout' activity type prior to kayaking (finally) becoming an option. I now use kayaking as the activity type for all my paddles. However...I can't work out how to change my existing paddling segment types from 'workout' to 'kayaking'. Any idea?
I don't want to go back and redo all the segments again from scratch under the 'kayak' activity type. Just change the 'type'.
Hi, thanks for adding these. I've got a suggestion regarding segments for kayaking.
I created a point to point segment today before heading out to paddle it again. The straight line distance between the start and the end is about 10km. When I got back home the app told me that today's paddle varied by 18% to the segment I created. In long distance or downwind ocean paddling the objective is usually to get from A to B in the shortest time possible rather than replicating the segment route. What might be good for "water sports" is to have an option to select the segment you want to match if the start and end points match.
I note the option to submit the activity to Strava support to have it manually matched to the segment but in practice this might prove to be the norm rather than the exception for some water sports.
Yes thanks for adding ROWING as a cathegory.BUT.
The information just "sits" there. I use Garmin 310XT to record my OTW rowing (aka outings, or on the water real rowing) so I have already Garmin to register my activities. Garmin Connect does not "process" my ROWING information, it just "sits" there as well. It shows information in a more friendly way than Strava's... and it's free........In another words, why would I pay USD50 or more to STRAVA for a Premium membership (which I am doing now) for virtually nothing?I guess that processing Rowing (and other water sports) to make them relevant data, e.g., to provide us with PR, segments, may be tricky.The thing is, distances are distances, the math is the same no matter your sport. Time vs Distance and you have PR, right? So why not having PR for Rowing and other water sports?
Wind does affect cycling and running as well as rowing. So no excuses for not having PR for Rowing and other water sports.
As for segments, we usually row on "tracks" which are 12,5 to 15mts wide - so it's even more precise than running or cycling. In my case, I row on a rather long&wide fresh water lake, so as a fact I can determine several "courses", but what I have found out is that "way points" determine my routes ... therefore, looking back the maps, I can tell that there are very precise "segments" to be recorded as such.We pay Strava a premium membership to get some extra perks such as the "analysis" of our work. In ROWING, we would like to have distance, speed, HR and maybe the instant and/or average "SPM" strokes per minute, which most of us would have to insert manually. Would that be possible?If I don't get an answer to this simple question, then that means you will have one less member when this year is up.
Thanks for adding this feature. Finally got a chance to try it out today. Works great!
thanks for adding these!
Not sure if the most recent commenters saw my post a few weeks ago, so I'll repost:
On the website (coming soon to mobile apps) you will now see the options to classify activities for:
Absolutely stunned that adding "paddling" takes years and years and years (well into our third one now)...
We're working hard to make this happen as soon as possible so that the new activity types will be available from our mobile apps. We really appreciate your patience!
Victor's workaround seems to work...but this whole thread makes Strava seem kafkaesque. Nordic ski, alpine ski, backcountry ski, ice skate, windsurf session, and snowshoe have been added but kayaking is more than two years in the works? I thought it was cool when Strava got a shout out on NPR/Science Friday a couple of weeks ago...but now I wonder about that.
We're working as fast as we can to put these new activity types into the mobile app. We appreciate your patience!
Blair - Unfortunately, we have no current plans to add these activity types to the training calendar or calendar widget on the Profile page. However, we understand this is a widely requested improvement!
Ellie, it's great that these options are now available for categorising activities but is there any timeline for getting them added to the Training Log and the Last 4 Weeks Total Activities section?
I am very glad to see this finally in STRAVA. But I am sure that you understand that is just begining with rowing and other water sports activities.
This is small (but important) step for all of us, keep doing great job that you have just begun.
Hi folks -
The day has arrived. On the website (coming soon to mobile apps) you will now see the options to classify activities for:
Yea true I noticed it wasn't on my Andriod, it is a bit of a joke when we're talking about adding a feature to an existing drop menu, in programming terms very simple.
Really Strava? In the age of agile software development it took you only two years to toss us our beloved kayaking activity. But even then you've done it half-ass. Your mobile Android app still hasn't been updated with kayaking! Should we beg and whine for another two years or should we just delegate someone who can teach you proper Software Quality Assurance? Jeez-us! This is SO FRUSTRATING!
Thats great you've added Kyaking. Please can we see this feature under the training log page for multi-sport ?
OMG I can see "Kayaking" there now, on the webpage version anyway. Thanks Strava!! :)
Yes, and SUP too! I reclassified my activities right away. Better really late than never ;-)
This is a start......
Need analysis, calories, speed measurements shown appropriately in the different sports....
Hopefully Strava realizes this is just a start as well and doesn't make us wait another two years to finish it.
It's great that you've added rowing as a category... but not so useful showing my speed in mph (all rowers I've ever met use pace in mm:ss/500m) , and that the analysis view is completely empty (not even time spent in heart rate zones).
Also, my activity feed now shows my rowing sessions as:
'translation missing: en-US.lib.feed.decorator.group_activity.watersport.one_friend'.
SO HAPPY TO SEE ROWING IN MY ACTIVITY FEED!! Thank you Strava!
Actually, to update my last comment where changing Activity type to Kayaking, actually changed it to RUN. This happens when I edit using the Activity Feed screen. If I go to Training, My Activities and use the EDIT link there it works perfectly to change these activity types to Kayaking.
Thanks again Strava. It's been a long time coming, but I'm very glad to see this!
Nice to see progress! Thank you Strava!
I did try to change one of my kayaking workouts that had been marked as Kitesurf to Kayaking, and instead Strava changed it to RUN. And I can't change it back.
I am doing a kayak workout this evening, so I'll be trying to upload a kayak workout tonight.
Yippee!! Kayaking has been added!!!
Could kayaking, rowing and other activities also be included in the training log, when your select multisport? It's very anoying that the multisport only includes cycling, running and swimming.
Ah, I see what's happening. Kayaking activities are appearing on my 'Activity Feed' and 'My Activities', but I cannot see it on my 'Training Log' due to it only covering run, ride and swim.
Thanks for adding this, but is it possible for us to see kayaking activities on the training log? They don't even appear as 'XT', just completely absent...
Yay, it's here!!! Kayaking, rowing and canoeing.
Only issue is that sessions marked as kayaking do not appear on my training calendar for some reason? Is this intentional?
Yes, please include all, but please keep "rowing" separate from "paddling" sports, as they are quite different. And YES! re: ergo entries from C2. Wait - you rowed at HARVARD??? How could you not have included rowing? Harry Parker is turning over in his grave.. ;-)
Please add Kayaking, Canoeing, Rowing as Activities on Strava and help the sport of Quadrathlon grow!!!
Excellent a Kyak (or paddle sport) activity would be great
For those with a Garmin, Garmin connect already has rowing and is about to introduce segments as well. Along with live update on the 810 and the new Edge 1000 head units, it may be enough for me to switch.
Yea I agree it's not like adding an additional drop down item is hard work. It can be done with the next update. Strava get to it for the northern hemi summer please. You're got some obscure events in that drop down list I mean kayaking is an olympic sport!
C'mon guys 2 years to add a drop down item... You can do better!!!
Add kayaking to the list of activities. I regularly train in a K1 flat water racing kayak as well as undertake sea kayaking expeditions, and currently have to log those trips as something like workout. As windsurfing is included as an activity, sure kayaking is a major omission - kayaking is much more of an endurance sport where performance data is important. Would be great to be able to upload my stats from the 125mile Devizes to Westminster kayak race which is held every year at Easter in the UK, and keep track of my months of training for it properly.
Didn't think it would be an original idea, but surprised to find this thread going back to 2012!!!!
Come on Strava, this is surely an easy addition.
Hi Elle. An update please. When will this be happening? All my "workouts" need to be "paddling".
Any update on this Elle Anderson? On April 14 you indicated we'd see something on the website for paddling by early May. I'm still having to use KITESURFING as my sport when I spend time in my kayak. Feel free to use for testing/converting/reviewing all my Kitesurfing activities knowing they were logged by paddling a kayak.
It's an Olympic Sport, it should be on strava too!
Please add kayaking! I'm a strava junkie for cycling and just bought a pair of kayaks. I will be lost if I can't load my paddling on strava!!
Yes please add "Kayaking" I do alot of sea kayaking and would love that option!
How hard is it to just add a couple of items to a drop down list? I can't believe this thread is now two years old and we're still waiting
Thomas, check the last few posts, Paddle sports are being added in the next update. I also record my paddling as 'swim'. We'll just have to edit them when the new activity is available =D
(why am I so pathetically excited by this...)
Paddlesports as a categories seems like a good idea with kayak, canoe, rowing, SUP, etc as tags within the activity
Hi Rob, thanks. Yep I saw it after adding my comment, I only read the first few pages then added :)
Garry, scroll up a few posts and you'll see that Kayaking is coming in a month or so :-)
Well its been 2yrs since this request was made, so its not looking good. If its so hard to get paddling added how on earth did some of those other obscure sports get in.
Yes - please include paddle sports.
Sounds like you need a roll and/or self rescue class as well as Strava ! : )
Seriously, though, I have been using Map My Tracks while waiting for Strava to get their act together. I would be happy to switch back, it they ever really get this in the water.
Excellent news! Thanks for the update Elle!
Can we have kayak paddling split between actual paddling and bailing/swimming to shore as I spend my time doing about 50/50.
(joking, I hardly ever fall out... *cough*)
Sweet just in time for paddling season.
Thanks again for your patience on this thread!
We now have a timeline in place, which I wanted to share with all of you: The Strava team is gearing up towards progress on adding new activity types, and this project is targeted for early May for the Strava website, and June for the mobile app. Literally, coming soon!
STRAVA Decision makers: I notice that from March 2012 kayakers and Paddlers have been requesting a category Kayak/paddling. I'd guess there are 10 times as many Kayakers/paddlers/SUP's than windsurfers, using Strava. Garmin Connect has paddling.
I have to download my paddles as "Ride" to get the HR, Dist, Laps detail I require. It's ridiculous to have a ride on my Colnago heading straight down Sydney Harbour
I have just renewed my Premium membership and getting a bit pissed off. Ken Hyman
I use a surf ski as cross training for cycling. If done properly, it is exceptionally good for core strength. PLEASE ADD KAYAK, SURF SKI, and ROWING to the activities. I mean, you have in line skating. Seriously?
The first Power Meter for kayaking! http://www.kayakpowermeter.com/en
Strava, get off you arses and keep up here! Don't alienate a portion of your athletes and force them to go elsewhere for tracking their training!
I've started adventure racing which I thought Strava would be ideal for tracking training. Please add 'Paddling' and/or 'Rowing'. There must be many adventure racers on here who are desperate to fill this omission in their logs...
Two years and counting... other features have been added in the meantime. Though I don't claim to understand the detail of your theory Brendan Hills it has a logic that appeals to me and provides and explanation for the immense amount of time taken to add what is clearly an important category.
Aside from the rather obvious paddlesport omission the sixteen current activities seem to have overlaps (walking and hiking) as well as a fascinating preponderance of skate and ski activities. And "Workout"??
Voting with your feet is fine if you're happy to have your activities scattered across several services. I trialled a number of others and I like Strava for tracking runs, walks and cycling. I've just started kayaking and I want to see my paddle efforts alongside my others.
Jeff, don't waste your time. They just keep ignoring our requests. Try Endomondo. Though their cycling activity logging is not as cool as Strava's but they are way more advanced in multi-sport options. They have been around for awhile and seem to be pretty reliable. Cheers!
I don't kayak often, but anytime I do I then go to Strava to upload my paddling. Every time I'm surprised there is still no kayaking option.
I recently hurt my knee and am unable to cycle or run for awhile. I bought a kayak and will be greatly increasing my kayak time. Are there any suggestions for other sites that support paddling sports that are similar to Strava. I love Strava, but if there's no kayak option I guess this is the time to look and see what else is out there.
I wonder why it has taken so long and Strava still haven't added rowing, paddling, SUP etc.
Ok so there are currently 16 activities. What is the bet that they are stored as the 16 values of a 4 bit data type? Maybe there are several different flags and data items munged into a single word in the DB. That would mean that adding a 17th value could require a change of DB schema, and possibly a massive data migration (think about how much data Strava must have by now...).
Not that any of that makes it any less frustrating!
A year later and 294 people have indicated they want this feature. Let get kayaking added, please!
Please add Kayaking & Stand Up Paddleboarding - a ton of bikers/runners race both categories!
This is the only feature lacking stopping me from switching from Runkeeper.
Import from Concept2 logbook would also be great.
Add me to the list of people who are waiting for this! I'm so glad that someone else has suggested it already - I came across this while trying to find out how I could add kayaking to my activities so figured if I left a comment that the "team" would see that even another person in need of this feature :)
I'm going to start using my TomTom multisport watch during my water training sessions (rowing) so Rowing as a sport would be a good option. The ability to import concept2 logbook data would also be cool.
Come on guys - surely time to add Rowing, kayaking, canoeing - can't be that hard can it. We have 200 ish rowers at Trafford RC and quite a few would get a lot out of Strava. What's the hold up?
The irony is the founders of Strava are rowers
I too would love to be able to add rowing to my Strava dashboard! Please consider adding this sport (boat and erg) to your activity list.
Happy TWO YEAR anniversary to this thread!
I know one thing for sure, if we did the same as Strava when it comes to please and serve our customers, we'd been out of business. I looked up ignorance in the online Oxford dictionary - it linked right to this thread.
Please add Kayaking or paddle sport to Strava!!!
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